Need help on a possible trade.

[tomhanzo]

A guy locally has this bass up for sale. I have no idea if it’s real or if it’s worth what I’m offering.
Here are the pictures he has:

he is wanting to trade this to my Jack Casady and an old Silvertone guitar.

Can you guys help me out. I’m out of my leave here.

 

[beatdatthang]

Looks kinda like a Squier Bronco (or even home made) with a home refinish job (and not a good one) and a Fender neck plate attached. What is he saying it is?

I have no expertise to share about it because I know nothing about Bronco basses, but if I really wanted a Bronco, I’d just buy a Squier for a hundred bucks and at least know what I’m getting. Isn’t a Jack Casady worth about $800 new and $500-600 used? With all due respect, that bass in the photos looks like firewood to me.

 

[Mr. Jiggy Fly]

That looks like a refinished Fender Musicmaster bass from the 1970s (1974-75) although i'm not certain.

Are you saying he wants the Epiphone Jack Casady AND Silvertone from you? I wouldn't call that a good deal.

 

[tomhanzo]

Looks kinda like a Squier Bronco (or even home made) with a home refinish job (and not a good one) and a Fender neck plate attached. What is he saying it is?

I have no expertise to share about it because I know nothing about Bronco basses, but if I really wanted a Bronco, I’d just buy a Squier for a hundred bucks and at least know what I’m getting. Isn’t a Jack Casady worth about $800 new and $500-600 used? With all due respect, that bass in the photos looks like firewood to me.

Ok thank you. I just don’t have any experience with these and needed this advice.

 

[EdO.]

That looks like a refinished Fender Musicmaster bass from the 1970s (1974-75) although i'm not certain.

Are you saying he wants the Epiphone Jack Casady AND Silvertone from you? I wouldn't call that a good deal.

Agreed, doesn't seem like a good deal. IMO the Jack Cassidy is likely worth more in resale and is probably a better bass anyway. Again, just one opinion. If you're wanting something different you'd likely be able to resell the JC easier than the maybe-a-Musicmaster.

 

[jd56hawk]

Not for nothing but does he have it listed anywhere and if so, how much money is he trying to get for it?
Obviously refinished, can't remember the last time I saw a Fender or Squier neck that color...and doesn't a refinish devalue a vintage bass?
Seriously, wouldn't it have been better as a natural relic?
Other than that, is there anything special about the Musicmaster bass, other than looking quirky/cool?

 

[Hurricane Jimmie]

The bass in the picture is quite a step down from a Jack Casady.
Does your bass have issues?

 

[Cliff Colton]

If you do that trade, TalkBass is going to take back one of your trophy points.

 

[tomhanzo]

Hahah yeah the musicmaster just looked cool, but the neck situation is why I got so nervous. He says it has stamps on the neck and said I was welcome to come take it apart.
I have had the Casady for years and just don’t care for it. I’m gonna sell it regardless. I’ll just sell it and keep an eye out for something to get.

 

[Matt Liebenau]

It also depends on what you mean by “old Silvertone guitar.” If it’s one of the more recent overseas made ones, that’s one thing but if it’s a Danelectro made Silvertone or something along those lines, that can have some decent value as well.

 

[tomhanzo]

I should have specified. It was either the Silvertone or Jack Casady. It’s actually a L1413 which seems to have some value.
I forgot to add that the seller wants $995 for the Musicmaster.

 

[Sixgunn]

I should have specified. It was either the Silvertone or Jack Casady. It’s actually a L1413 which seems to have some value.
I forgot to add that the seller wants $995 for the Musicmaster.

That's about $900.00 more than I'd give for it.

 

[Killing Floor]

You'd be on the short end of that deal. Maybe it's legit but it's not got any collectible value. I do like the color, though. Offer him $250 and see what he says.

 

[jd56hawk]

I should have specified. It was either the Silvertone or Jack Casady. It’s actually a L1413 which seems to have some value.
I forgot to add that the seller wants $995 for the Musicmaster.

I'd like to meet whoever gives him $995 for it!
Seriously, have we even found out if it's not just some parts bass?
What can it do that countless $400 basses can't?

 

[EdO.]

I should have specified. It was either the Silvertone or Jack Casady. It’s actually a L1413 which seems to have some value.
I forgot to add that the seller wants $995 for the Musicmaster.

What I think we're trying to tell you is that the dude is trying to take advantage of your lack of knowledge and pull a fast one on you. Sell the Cassidy and find a decent Epiphone or Squier etc to replace it for probably what yours will sell for.

 

[Bass4ThePublic]

Honestly for a Music master bass you may as well get an original, as they’re one of the cheapest vintage basses out there. Take a look at this 72, it has all original parts for only $100 extra, and you could make the seller an offer. Fender Musicmaster Bass 1972 Red | Zagogo | Reverb

 

[Larry Garland]

No, No, No!! As everyone said, cheapest and short scale with a "refinish" makes it $150 bass to me.

 

[Ostie]

Don’t walk, run away from this deal. MM is an entry level bass. It’s refinished poorly. It’s also short scale, if that maters to you.

 

[kmon]

no way in hell

 

[WillyW]

Crapmaster is more like it, does it come with a crack pipe? If it does it’s worth the price of the crack pipe.