Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by haujobb, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. haujobb


    Dec 16, 2004
    So I got this huge problem bugging me, it worries me alot because it could potentially cause serious problems for my band, I love my band and the guys are like brothers, so I'm really worried.

    So yeah, the problem is my guitarist, I love the guy to death but he is pure and simple in a rut, he has actually been this way for a while but up until recently he was content so no one ever said anything, well now he's not content and is gettin increasingly uncontent.

    A little about my guitarist, he's 20 years old, has a grade 10 education - he is partly to blame, but some of the blame can deffinately be passes onto the system, he's a very smart kid, but sometimes doesn't get stuff, unfortunately his school, which is coincidently my school, likes to pass kids like this off as losers and kick them out asap. He has no job as a result of not being done highschool, no license as a result of not having a job. He's what some would call the typical "loser".

    Well I see something very different, everything the kid does do, he does 150%. He is willing to learn, he is willing to work, he is willing to try, unfortunately his self esteem is so low that he can't get anywhere. He try's to get new gear but never can, he tries to spend time with his girlfriend who lived in another town, when he does he can't afford to do anything special with her. I'm good friends with his girlfriend as well, she's crazy about him but I can see that there are lots of problems in their relationship.

    So anyways, it seems like right now he's just sinking lower and lower, and it worries me, when I look at the kid, I don't see any of the things others see. When he does do stuff, he puts in a 150% effort, he's passionate about the things he does have and he does everything possible to keep them. Lately though, he just seems to not care, he gets pissed of real easy, gives up real easy, and basically does nothing all day.

    He does have one major talent, he is a great craftsman and has built several really nice guitars, I've been really encouraging him lately to start building guitars and selling them to get on his feet, but then he just starts naming off why it wouldn't work. I really care about him and want him to do something with himself, but don't know what I can do to get him to try.

    Anyone got any input?
  2. Mike Money

    Mike Money Banned

    Mar 18, 2003
    Bakersfield California
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    kick him in the ass, and force him to make guitars... hell, even offer to buy the materials to get him started.
  3. haujobb


    Dec 16, 2004
    I considered offering to lend him some money, but at this point I gotta start saving for college and what not.

    Kicking him in ass is a good idea though :)
  4. McHack


    Jul 29, 2003
    Central Ohio!
    Something doesn't sound right with your story... Schools don't just kick you out w/o just cause. They CANT... If they did, they could be sued! There's GOTTA be more to the story... Maybe he got in a fight, or something...

    But, I'd tell you this. If he has limited earning potential, I wouldn't LEND him any money, as there's a good chance you might not get it back. I'm sure he'd intend to pay you back, but damn... If you want to GIVE him money, that's up to you... I just wouldn't expect it back.
  5. haujobb


    Dec 16, 2004

    That's the story, I see it happen all the time, at one point last year the VP walked into one of my classes with some papers and said anyone over 18 that is failing is to sign these papers and never come back.
  6. FenderHotRod


    Sep 1, 2004
    Have you never Seen Pump Up the Volume? :)

    Anyway: haujobb,
    You can only help out people so much. I don't get why he can't get a job for tho? Out of all my friends I went to school with since 7 grade I was the only one to finish. They all quite around the Ninth and tenth grade. They all have jobs. Granted some of them are not the best but still.
    He can also get his GED.
  7. haujobb


    Dec 16, 2004
    He's thought about the whole GED thing, he's actually still eligable to take correspondance and get his actual diploma, right now he's so low that he isn't willing to try, just assumes that he'll fail. Gotta get him out of it I guess.
  8. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    While some school districts may ask certain students to leave. I've seen them simply "pass-up" kids to move them through the sysytem and out.
    The districts' all have more kids coming in all the time and they gotta make room.
    I am not defending the school districts either. The way the local Special Ed Dept. politburo treated us and our son during meetings was nothing short of devious. They didn't ask us to leave, but they gave us no encouragement that they were going to help us either. It's why my son now attends private school.
  9. haujobb


    Dec 16, 2004
    His girlfriend and I just talked about it, we're gonna wait a few weeks and see if he cheers up, then we're gonna try to do something about it.