need intermediate level book recomendations

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by thehangingmist, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. most books i see starts from the scratch and deal with the basics now i am not looking for that. I've been playing bass for about four years and have done grade2 level classical guitar before that. i am looking for a comprehensive bass guitar book which could help an average bass player who plays in a band and writes songs and stuff; not looking for a technique book either.
    the music i mostly play and listen to is rock, blues and a bit of funk. please suggest some books which would be useful to me.

    thanks
     
  2. DocBop

    DocBop

    Feb 22, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    A good theory book and a stack of CD's to start transcribing and analyzing, that's intermediate level.
     
  3. which book would you say? yes i need to really start transcribing, ear training is something i never paid attention to. have started with garry willi's ultimate ear training book though
     
  4. DocBop

    DocBop

    Feb 22, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Theory books there have been lots of threads on so I would check those out. The MI series of books has a good basic theory book by Carl Schroeder. For ear training there are a few websites with online testing software. Again have been many threads with links to ear training sites.

    A good thing to do is once you know enough theory and know scale degrees is to sing bass lines you know. That helps relate ear to sounds you are already know.
     
  5. thanks, knowing some little theory and scales is what is helping me a lot thanks to the classical guitar i had studied earlier :)
     
  6. greenboy

    greenboy

    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    I really like the material Dr William Fowler used to put in his downbeat magazine column (raised some fine musicians in his family too); I think its been assembled in a book. Good enough ideas, examples and illustrations, and insight into the thought behind it all to help one get a Zappa-like grip on the materials.

    Unlike some material I didn't find it unnecessarily pedantic - he seems to go deep but with a mindset toward practical application.
     
  7. theschnitt

    theschnitt Supporting Member

    Jan 27, 2005
    Tucson, AZ
    I just got Mike Levy's Blues play-along book, and I like the way he writes out some lines and leaves it to the student to figure out the embellishments. Very cool intermediate book, I'll write a more detailed review shortly.

    Link to the book. Check it out and download a free sample.
     
  8. DocBop

    DocBop

    Feb 22, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Good intro to theory book.

    The key once past beginner stage is seat time with a metronome, some sort of recorder, and a notebook to take notes and track your progress. Every theory element you learn spend three times as much time trying to put it into use on your instrument. Every bass line, progression, or solo you transcribe spend time analyzing so you know why you like or don't like it, this builds your resource of ideas. Find someone to just sit and play with another bass player, KB, or ??? Getting to sit with someone you know and try ideas and critic each other is great learning tool. Plus do lots of listening and not just to the styles you like listen to all music and try to hear why people like it. But most important remember to have fun.
     
  9. thanks, that was really a great post! i am going to keep all this in mind.

    important and urgent: my Canadian friend who is getting me books (nothing available here in India) couldn't not find the MI theory book so i need other recommendations on which other theory book to go for. preferably something which is popular, common, and easy to find.
     
  10. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    Here are a few links that I've found useful and hope you will as well. Some may not be at your level but I leave them in and let you be the judge. Some go outside of learning theory and delve into music in general which I also leave in because, IMO, they're pretty interesting.

    Good luck.

    Must reads:
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=429034 If I only knew then...
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434246 Best musical advice
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481465 Things every bassist should know
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500896 "Feel"

    Learning stuff
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79878 How to practice bass
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50170 How to practice bass

    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=80043 Creating bass lines
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125536 Creating bass lines - Target Approach
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491679 Playing behind/ahead of the beat

    Theory
    http://www.musictheory.net/index.html Xlnt visual Beginning Music Theory (Power Point lessons), ear trainer, chord calc., more
    http://www.download.com/NoteCard/3000-2133_4-10004005.html Downloadable program for learning the bass clef. (as recommended by AlphaMale)
    http://www.playthebass.com print flashcards for learning bass clef, print staff paper

    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=498975 Key signatures/Circle of 5ths/Cycle of 4ths
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479401 Learn to read music
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479642 Learn to read music
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6521582 Improve site reading
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419687 Read bass clef
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485421 Using modes
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2338584&postcount=4 Learning modes
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125519 Intro to scale and chord theory
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473968 Learning Theory
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56761 TB Gen. Instruction Theory links list
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88294 Theory (from the DB side of TB)

    Books and instructional materials
    http://www.bassbooks.com/shopping/default.asp Books, DVDs, all styles and methods
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491293 Looking for the Bass "Bible"
    http://playbassnow.com/recommended-learning-materials/ MarlowDK's recommended books
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=498831 "Best" theory/harmony book
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=502252 Walking bass lines
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99676 Theory Books Links

    Software for transcribing/slowing down songs/Looping software/metronome,etc.
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142112 Transcribing software
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481448 Slow down software
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23303 Slow down software
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269168 Free music software thread

    Styles
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486412 Blues Turn arounds
    http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/appendix/blues/Bluesprogression.html Blues Progressions explained with samples
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501425 Learning Latin music
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9859 Learning to play jazz
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482544 Jazz Scales

    Free online lessons
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481548 Dman has videos
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490379 Who's the best youtube bass teacher?
    http://www.studybass.com/ Complete bass studies including online metronome, fretboard printer, bass clef tutor and more.
    http://www.activebass.com/ Tab based lessons by members for members covering all types of bass instruction.
    http://www.playbassnow.com with MarlowDK including videos.
    http://www.thelibster.com/bass/ includes beginners' guide/lessons, tech advice, fingerboard drills, bass sound files, playing tips, a Q&A, links & more.
    http://www.musicdojo.com/index.asp Online bass course (5 day free trial)
    http://www.cliffengel.com/ Free and paid lessons

    Online study of music theory/ear training.
    http://www.teoria.com/ Check out the tutorials, exercises and reference dictionary
    http://www.good-ear.com/ Ear training
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/IcerC/OnlineScreen.swf Test your ear

    College music
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479377 So you want to be a music major in college
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484028 Solfege
    http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/ Virginia Tech Multimedia Music Dictionary (great for music theory terms)

    Funk it up
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6527889&postcount=10 Funk, groove and R&B bass players
     
  11. thanks a lot Stumbo for putting it all together in one post. i have already gone through most of the TB threads you posted, i have found some theory material to read and learn and am getting the bass methods complete book. maybe the building walking bass lines too. so is really more than enough for now. untill i get the books am just planning on going through some of the stuff from the books i already have
     
  12. jonster

    jonster

    Nov 12, 2008
    Varunkapahi (and others):

    I've written five bass books for Hal Leonard, which you may find helpful:

    FUNK BASS, my first book, deals exclusively with slapping;

    FUNK/FUSION BASS, my second book, focuses on finger-style funk.

    ROCK BASS, my third book, traces the evolution of rock (and rock bass lines and solos) from the '50s through the '90s;

    BLUES BASS, my fourth book, covers the evolution of blues (and blues bass lines and solos) from the Delta, New Orleans, Chicago, West Coast, etc.

    BASS GROOVES: THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION, is my brand new book, scheduled for release at the January 2009 NAMM Show. It's chock full of bass grooves in just about any style you'll ever need: blues, jazz, rock, funk/R&B, reggae, country, latin and much more. Will Lee, who wrote the foreword, says it's "the most important book since Standing in the Shadows of Motown!"

    I hope I can be of help to you and your bass playing. Contact me anytime if I can be of help. Thanks!

    Jon Liebman
     
  13. mambo4

    mambo4

    Jun 9, 2006
    Dallas
    Jon that book sounds interesting, I will keep my eye out for it.

    Varunkapahi, I usaully reccomend The Bass Bible by Paul Westwood as a good intermediate book, for similar reasons. Its a very useful guide to styles of bass from around the world, including specific "in the style of" sections profiling a few greats. also a good section on typical chord progressions, some advanced harmonics, and some basic theory.

    Can the mods please give Stumbo permanent sticky status?
     
  14. jonster

    jonster

    Nov 12, 2008
    Thanks, mambo4!
     
  15. RedsFan75

    RedsFan75

    Apr 26, 2007
    Cincinnati
    Hey Jon, that Bass Grooves book looks very interesting.
     
  16. jonster

    jonster

    Nov 12, 2008
    Thanks, RedsFan! I'll let you (and everyone else) know when it comes out.

    Jon Liebman
     
  17. pendergasta

    pendergasta .- .- .-. --- -. / .--. . -. -.. . .-. --. .- ...

    Jan 7, 2008
    North Carolina
    MODS: Great sticky material here, unless it's already posted and I just missed it!
     
  18. jonster

    jonster

    Nov 12, 2008
    Hey, mambo4, RedsFan75 and the rest of you who asked. I'm responding to let you know that my newest Hal Leonard book, BASS GROOVES: THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION, is now available (and really cheap!) on my new website.

    Check out www.JonLiebman.com and let me know what you think.

    Thanks!

    Jon Liebman