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Hmm. 1/8th scale humanoids, super strong and quite capable of building machines, would need 1/64th of the space machine to fly in that us weaklings need. So redo the fuel maths accordingly. Fuel would be much easier to make with all the extra atmospheric pressure but the vessel would need to be stronger to keep it up in space. Redo the fuel maths. Ad infinitum.The space elevator concept lives on....
No Way Out? Aliens on 'Super-Earth' Planets May Be Trapped by Gravity
-Mike
How do you figure? It would be anchored at or near the equator and carve a narrow disc through the space surrounding Earth.Did anyone post this yet (or did I already years ago and forgot)? A space elevator attached to a fixed point on the ground eventually sweeps through all points in space up to the upper end. Thus it is guaranteed to collide with space junk.
Orbiting space junk crosses the equator twice per circuit. If it's geostationary space junk no problem. Otherwise, it's going to come across at the wrong spot one day.How do you figure? It would be anchored at or near the equator and carve a narrow disc through the space surrounding Earth.
Tell everyone there’s a kook on TB?Thank you all for replying. Hopefully, some of you either will or did take 3.3 minutes reading the linked essay would have taken. Either way I ask you to tell everyone you know, tell them there is this kook on TB who is talking about an idea as ambitious and as completely unlikely as every great thing ever attempted was until it happened. Tell your kids and neighbors, show them the link. Relish the knowledge most amazing things ever heard about or learned of, were only accomplished after successfully facing the incredibly difficult task of motivating just a single person (let alone as many as it actually took) to push one more amazing accomplishment into the field of fantastic human endeavor. Tell everyone you know. Please tell everyone today you did your part, as skeptic(informed or otherwise), biting cynic or maybe even engaged, active, willing supporter.
Wouldn’t that block the geo sat signals when it swept under them?How do you figure? It would be anchored at or near the equator and carve a narrow disc through the space surrounding Earth.
The space junk, mostly in LEO, is at all kinds of inclinations and each piece will eventually intersect the inclined disc of the elevator when the elevator is present, at high relative velocity. It is a well-recognized problem with the concept.How do you figure? It would be anchored at or near the equator and carve a narrow disc through the space surrounding Earth.
Think of the path of the International Space Station over the surface as the Earth rotates under it.The space junk, mostly in LEO, is at all kinds of inclinations and each piece will eventually intersect the inclined disc of the elevator when the elevator is present, at high relative velocity. It is a well-recognized problem with the concept.
Floor 7,534,172, please. (Don't you hate it when some joker pushes ALL the buttons??!!??)![]()
Yes, that's the part I forgot about. The junk takes random paths.The space junk, mostly in LEO, is at all kinds of inclinations and each piece will eventually intersect the inclined disc of the elevator when the elevator is present, at high relative velocity. It is a well-recognized problem with the concept.
Nor quite. When it becomes junk it is random, then it is pretty reliable on where it will be at any given time until it bangs into another bit. They track a lot of the bigger bits. Maybe they are 24/7 on it but I doubt it.Yes, that's the part I forgot about. The junk takes random paths.
Right now, imagine when we humans were just beginning to fly simple airplanes. They were dangerous, hard to maneuver, and didn't fly very long. If you can, imagine that very first cool, dusty, summer day; incredulous, you are watching early flight happen for just a few seconds as a horribly loud wobbly contraption made with bailing wire, thin wood slats, and paper, just barely gets off the ground, and then just as quickly falls from the sky, jarring it's one crazy inventor/pilot. What might have been your thoughts? Maybe the same as when you read the title of this post? In ten years Michael Laine and Liftport will build an elevator to space. If you are interested in this concept, you have a few options. You can read this, where the concept and realities are specified [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] There is also a Kickstarter.com campaign where you can donate as little as a dollar. Think about the number of people Orville Wright talked to about his contraption...how few believed him, acted in any way to help him...then think about walking to see your cousin Larry in Potomac, vs getting on the 727...! Today, I invite you to be one of the very few thorough, informed skeptics..