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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by K6669, Oct 7, 2013.


  1. K6669

    K6669

    Oct 5, 2013
    I want to upgrade my rig. I'm looking to get an Gallien Krueger Mb800 and run that through a 410 mbe- II/800w. Would I be able to also run a Neo 115-III with the 410 mbe-II/800w both at 8ohms. The Gallien Krueger Mb800 outputs at 560w @ 8ohms. The Neo 115-III is 400W RMS/ 8 ohms. 410 mbe is -II/800w has a power handling of 800w.:confused::help:
     
  2. Yes. There are 2 speaker outputs on the back of the amp.
    Running 2 8ohm cabs will give you the full 800 watts into 4ohms.
     
  3. Amps put out more than their rated clean power.

    Cabs fart out at less than their rated power, since that rating is for thermal meltdown with high frequency sound. This means you would be only putting roughly 400w into the two cabs before the 15 starts to run out of puff.
     
  4. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Two 8 ohm 410 cabs will give you a lot more low end and loudness.
    Not to question anyone's desire for a big rig, but if you give us more info about what you are planning, maybe we can offer more detailed opinions/"advice."
     
  5. Yes, you could............

    The more important question is WHY would you :confused:
     
  6. RickenBoogie

    RickenBoogie

    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    +1 read up on why a 410/115 is not such a great pairing.
     
  7. K6669

    K6669

    Oct 5, 2013
    Well, I was thinking of using the 115 solo I hear it's not bad. Then adding a 410 on top of that, but I've been hearing a ton of different things about phasing in frequency things. I could probably just use a 410 all the way. I see people with 115 and 410, but I don't want to do it if it's just hype. I want sound quality I hear that both the good quality of each a 115 and 410 are cut out when paired together. What about a 212 and a 115?
     
  8. remainthesame

    remainthesame

    Sep 24, 2008
    A bunch of people on this site are against the mixing of driver sizes, so be prepared for that. It works for some, it doesn't work for others. Do what YOU need to do. The setup you're suggesting will work but whether or not it sounds good is your call.

    Jack Bruce, Victor Wooten, and many others have mixed drivers with much success.
     
  9. RickenBoogie

    RickenBoogie

    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Big name players use rigs that were either given to them, or provided as backline. The rigs are on stage as advertisements, and the actual sound they make during a show is provided from the PA system. Also, the fact that you may be a really good player, does not qualify you as a sound engineer. Food for thought. Fact is, a full range bass spkr can come in any size, so looking to "fill out" the sound using mixed drivers is mythology, and using matched cabs will always outperform a mixed set. Not to say mixed cabs don't "work", just that matched cabs work "better".
     
  10. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    Toronto Ontario Canada
    +1 Rick pretty much left nothing more to say. :D
     
  11. I do have something to throw in the mix. The MB800 will have a sustained burst of over 1000 watts at 4 ohms, also exceeds 600 watts at 8 ohms. Not a safe place for a single 115 cab.
    There has already been cases of people who thought they were safe pounding a 600 watt 212 (8 ohm) and blew speakers.
    With a 400 watt 115 and a 800 watt 410 you only have 800 watts input of cabs. Take the lowest rated cab and multiply by the number of cabs.
     
  12. K6669

    K6669

    Oct 5, 2013
    Alright thanks for the help and advice.
     
  13. eagle67

    eagle67

    Nov 12, 2010
    Hi guys - any thoughts on pairing a GK 115 Neo-III with a 115 MBE-II ?