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need some suggestions :)

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geodeath

Apr 30, 2009
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#1
Hi all and sorry if this thread looks like another "which amp to buy" thread. I sincerely read pages upon pages of material here in tb but still, i need someone to take a look at what i found and comment. I am in a weird situation, cause i want to get an amp (combo or head/cab) in Greece, but most of the local stores only bring 1 or 2 brands, which makes it difficult to locate and try lots of them. Also prices are bad, which is why i am looking at a specific online retailer that gives a longer warranty and free shipping on top of its better prices.. So, here is a short list of things i found locally:

combos:
All behringer combos, from 180 watts (buggera) to 450w, all of them cheap. I know what most of you think for behringer, which is why i still have to buy one.. These come at a really great price. If you feel there is a good one out of the behringer line, feel free to let me know.
Ampeg 112,115 and 115hpu which goes for more but seems more "pro" and louder.
Fender rumble 100/150 which from a demo, sounded great but it is as expensive as the ampeg 115hpu and its half its power.
Gallien Krueger backline 112 & 115. Cheap, but i am not sure lots of you love them :)

All the other combos i found, are too expensive to consider, moving well into the head/cab region.

heads/cabs:
Behringer ba4500h head, ba115 or ba210 cabs, can get a set for around 439 which is a killer price for such a set but i am sceptical about this brand. I was offered the same set but with a cheaper head as well, the 1800 one.


These are the best i could find locally. What i really want, is an amp that will suit me well for practise/rehearsals with a band and probably small club gigs. What i certainly do not want is buying a new set in a couple of years because of the head/cab blowing up. I would spend something between 300-600 euros max.

Because what i can find locally is limited, i also wanted you to take a look (well, if you have the time, patience and good will and not bored :) ) at 3-4 links to that webshop i was talking about to help a brother up.. These are links to combos, heads and cabs. If you have the time to check them out, i would love some feedback. I could post all combos and configs here too, it would just become a long list and trained eyes that know these amps/cabs will probably spot a good deal right away..

One other reason i am not so sure of buying before you see these is because i am not entirely sure of a correct head/cab combination, although i read the faq in depth. I still am a little afraid i might pick out a "not so good" configuration :)

bear with me, thanks for even reading this, even more glad if you take the time to look through these links. Which of these combos or heads/cabs would you choose in the price range of 300-600 euros and why? (as in X is better than Y for this reason). Of course all of this is subjective and i still have to play though all of your suggestions, but at least this will give me a head start and maybe a warning for bad combinations or bad gear.

combos: (conveniently copied from where prices start at 300, no need for less than that)

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heads:
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half-stacks:
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1x15 cabs:
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2x10 cabs:
http://www.thomann.de/gr/cat.html?gf=2x10_bass_cabinets&oa=pra

4x10 cabs:
http://www.thomann.de/gr/cat.html?gf=4x10_bass_cabinets&oa=pra


sorry for the long post, sorry for maybe wasting your time on this, but maybe you can have a look over your coffee and tell me what you would pick?

Oh, before the elusive "check the used market" answer comes up, there is no such thing here.. I might be able to get stuff through ebay uk or the german one but shipping costs will probably be overkill. I will search for all suggestions there as well of course!!

thanks in advance.

george
 
#4
If i knew someone around that would build one, sure, i would give it a try :)

Also, no matter how many USD you can get out of XXX euros, pricing still remains the same.. EG some amp in the USA, 400$ = 400 Euros here.. plain old european retailer bs.

Which is exactly why i am mad, cause a lot of USA stuff could be sourced at very good prices, but they still do not pass of the exchange savings to the customer. they rather do a 1:1 exchange for the prices. :scowl:
 
#5
Well, i had another round of reading here at tb and i am looking into these 3 options:

1) trace elliot 715 combo, but kinda scared to go that way cause all the hissing people reported here. (B stock, 330 euros)
2) GALLIEN KRUEGER BACKLINE 600/115 HALFSTACK. of course i can always get another cab from what i read, lots of people do not like the backline cabs, so i am gonna look for cabs.. but i think i will love the head :) (483 Euros)
3) ASHDOWN MAG 300H EVO II + ASHDOWN MAG410T more expensive than the backline or the trace elliot combo, but seems like a solid deal (549 Euros)

so, whats your take on these? Do you think i would be better getting the GK head with another cab? What do you think of the gk 600 +a cab i can find in Europe (so no avatars here) vs the ashdown deal?
 
#6
I've no experience with any of the rigs which you are considering.

However TB'er fdeck wrote an informative review of the G-K BL600. It's at the bottom of his web page: Invalid Link Removed
 
#7
I ve read it :)
thanks for posting it tough. It was a gret rig. The only thing to consider really now at that price point is the cab.. and whether to go for the backline (probably that) or the other deal. Unfortunately the avatar speakers most people recommend here are not available overseas.
 
#8
A BL600 (300 Watts RMS @ 4 Ω) + a 4 Ω Neo 212 (600 Watts RMS) OR better yet, e-mail Thomann re the new G-K MB210: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] (or the even newer MB212).

G-K's rigs have never been lighter & louder - and cheaper - than these new combos.

You're so well researched. I don't even know why I'm posting this :D:

'New Gallien Krueger MB 210 & MB 115': http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=528864
 
#11
Hey you should check out Invalid Link Removed I bought my amp and cab off of them for a pretty good price, and the shipping is free if you spend a certian amount they also seem to have a better range than thomman tho alot of the stuff is the same.

Maybe check out the warwick profet head I have one :) (its not the best but I rate it above the ashdown mag at my church) and pair it with the ampeg B410 or ashdown Mag 410 or some other cab within your range.
 

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