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Neopak not cutting it?

Jamasaurus

Jamasaurus

Sep 10, 2007
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Naples, FL
#1
I purchased my GB Neopak new about 6-8 months ago and have been nothing but pleased with it. However, I recently joined a reggae band and when jamming with our (loud) drummer the amp seems to be clipping so much! The speakers(Avatar 2x10) aren't farting out and they are loud enough, its just the red light will flash alot from the limiter.

Just wondering if too much of the limiter is a bad sign and I should look to get a more powerful head. I've been looking at the Shuttle 6.0 and GK 1001RB-II. Both of these heads seem way more powerful than my Neopak but I don't want to upgrade if I don't need to. Any thoughts/advice.
 
#2
a couple of things. Forget the light, how does it sound? Are you hearing clipping/distortion?

How many ohms is the cab and do you have the 2 ohm version of the NeoPak?
 
#3
the red light on the tube preamp side or the actual clip light? if its the preamp just turn the preamp gain down and volume up... if that doesn't work I'd add another Avatar cab on the cheap before putting your NeoPak out to pasture... I'm a bit biased though as i love mine
 
#7
Thanks for all the responses. I'm currently using a 4 ohm Avatar 210 and my Neo has the 2 ohm mod already. I had been considering adding a 115 cab for quite some time. I wanted to find a 4 ohm 15 to get down to 2 ohms but all of the 15s I've seen are 8 ohm.(I guess 2.67 ohms ain't too shabby though)

Any suggestions for a decent 15" in the $300-$400 range?
 
#11
Hey Jamasaurus...

personally, i think you will need the extra speaker(s) for your application regardless, so it's a good place to start. take advantage of the upgraded 2 ohm option. the clip light used to freak me out too, but i found that i actually never heard any audible clipping. i ended up moving to higher powered genz heads, but hopefully the neo-pak will do what you're looking for, simply with another cab. :D
 
#12
210's just simply won't cut that gig. There is not enough speaker area to move the lowend air that you need for the gig.Honestly if it were me doing that gig... I would add a pair of 8 ohm 18 cabinets. More speakers mean more volume at the same power.

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#13
Fretlessboy said:
210's just simply won't cut that gig. There is not enough speaker area to move the lowend air that you need for the gig.Honestly if it were me doing that gig... I would add a pair of 8 ohm 18 cabinets. More speakers mean more volume at the same power.
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Yah, I agree. I was just about to revisit this thread to suggest a pair of 8ohm 15's instead of a single 4ohm 15 incher.
 
#15
Yeah, I was thinking on getting this used Ampeg 15 down at my local music shop. I think it is 8 ohm, but it should do the trick, don't you guys think? I think they're asking like $250 for it, so maybe after some haggling...

BTW I do have another 4 ohm peavey 210 cab but was thinking on getting rid of it for a 15 anyways.
 
#16
Jamasaurus said:
Yeah, I was thinking on getting this used Ampeg 15 down at my local music shop. I think it is 8 ohm, but it should do the trick, don't you guys think? I think they're asking like $250 for it, so maybe after some haggling...
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That'd prolly work, although bear in mind that when running the 8ohm 15" with the 4ohm 210, the 210 will be getting twice the power, so it will sound significantly louder.
 
#18
Over the years, Family Man has explored a number of different ways to get his righteous tone. "You tone the bass from your instrument and your amplifier, get a suitable tone with your feel, and then mike that flat. Sometimes we used two tracks of bass; number one was the DI to the board, and the other one was miked. Then you blend both of them together to get that direct sound with that mike resonance." The inside sleeve of Marley's 1975 Natty Dread LP [Tuff Gong/Island] depicts Family Man playing a sunburst Jazz Bass with a rosewood fingerboard, while 1978's live Babylon by Bus [Tuff Gong/Island] shows him with an early-'70s maple-board J-Bass. He usually plugged into an Acoustic head and cabinet. "You shoot for that original upright bass sound, you know? To get that sound I use my thumb occasionally, but when you use the other two fingers you have a more speedy action and more control over the notes you're hitting. It's when you have your one-drop notes moving on there that your thumb get a more smoother cushion."
It was a 370/408 by the way thats four fifteen inch cts or altec alnico's
and live he used up to four sets.
Robbie was very much the same but used to plug in the desk with his own special di and come out of the reamp socket to often 4 Accoustic rigs some time's 2 370/408 and 2 X 360's with 18 inch Cerwin Vega speakers in the folded horn cabs.
Thats the gig, thats the sound! Sorry anything else is as fake as a dodgy rolex.
:bassist:
 

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