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New Classic Vibe Basses really that bad?

According to what facts are "not what they used to be"/bad? You did not even have these "fabled" chinese instruments.

Indeed if you are going to have misgivings, best buy something else, but both chinese and Indonesian Squiers can be excellent. Only trend I have read about is that the Chinese instruments aren't necessarily better than Indonesian *right now.*

My Indonesian basses are great to excellent, and am happy to have them. There will always be unstable necks in some models, but mine were fine.
 
According to people writing here. Did you not read the answers in this thread? Twisted and unstable necks, fretboards not rounded, lower quality machine heads - I never heard so many complaints about the older Chinese ones. There seem to also exist many good ones too but from the answers in this thread it seems like all together it’s not the same quality anymore. That’s why I might order two and see if I get lucky. I had several Chinese Classic Vibe Basses in the past and they were all very good. I think one didn’t have perfect frets but the others had great necks.
 
…So I guess it’s true - they are not the same anymore
Not the same…with different specs… Indian Laurel board vs. Rosewood board threaded bent plate vs high mass bridge and seems (to me) to be thinner tinted gloss poly on the newer Indo CV necks.

There are many many happy Indo CV owners (I am one) so please don’t pile on and Fender has sold an awful lot of them, this is only my experience and my comparison of Indo vs. Crafted In China.
 
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Not the same…with different specs… Indian Laurel board vs. Rosewood board threaded bent plate vs high mass bridge and seems (to me) to be thinner tinted gloss poly on the newer Indo CV necks.

There are many many happy Indo CV owners (I am one) so please don’t pile on and Fender has sold an awful lot of them, this is only my experience and my comparison of Indo vs. Crafted In China.

But you owning several of them with unstable necks that needed replacement doesn’t speak for their consistent quality if you aren’t extremely unlucky, does it?
 
My CV Jazz was almost great, but had a warped neck. And seemingly it wasn’t the only one.

I only noticed, though, because I was trying to get really low action - and it wouldn’t stick. The neck was quite stable, as long as you didn’t want it straighter than it wanted to go. If I had wanted low-medium action I think it would have been fine.

Makes me wonder how many other CVs are out there with the same problem, but no-one noticed because they weren’t so fussy about the action.

Warp neck been happened on 2 of my Vintage modified J, 70 and 77 after few months bought new.

Warp stating point from 14th fret til last fret , D and G string just buzz me mad.
 
I’ve owned both. I have 2 Chinese CV p basses (70s & 50s), and I have owned an Indonesian CV60s. They are all good instruments.

The biggest difference that I noticed between the CiC & CiI is the Indo basses had a harder round over on the body contours (less round, more square edges), and the sides of the fretboard weren’t rolled, so those were a little sharp. It was still a very comfortable bass to play, and sounds amazing. I sold it a friend, and whenever I’m over at his place I pick it up and play it. Every time it floors me how damn good it sounds. I honestly like its sound better than my CV70s, but I think it’s mostly the difference in the strings.

I wouldn’t hesitate to buy a new CV o bass if you’re in the market.

Those discontinued CIC CV bass has thick poly paint, therefore has rounder body edge.
I been drill mounting holes for bridge cover on them , evidence prove.
 
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Unstable necks should not happen at this price range. That’s an absolute no go for me. So I guess it’s true - they are not the same anymore

The only unstable neck amongst all my Squier basses happens to be an early run CV 50s Precision bass made in 2009. (I have a total of 12 - from China, Indonesia, and Japan). It requires frequent truss rod adjustments throughout the year. My most stable Squier bass neck is a 2011 VM Jaguar SS made in.............. wait for it......................Indonesia. I have never once adjusted the truss rod on that instrument. That 2009 50s Precision has had nearly 15 years to settle in, yet it is like a wet noodle compared to the others. So for me and my sample size, the original CV line have unstable necks by comparison. (Going by my numbers and percentages). Therefore, the new CV basses are superior.

See why blanket statements like this should be avoided? Each bass should be evaluated on it's own merits, not by some sort of preconceived notion. Obviously, I don't believe the new CV lineup is actually superior. But, I could make the case! (But I won't. ;))
 
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From the answers I get it seems that the actual Classic Vibe basses aren’t that consistently good anymore. But some seem to still be great. So I could have luck or not. I do remember that those Matt Freeman Precision basses sounded good but not awesome. (On the other hand I played a Fender American Original 60s bass that didn’t sound any better) Playability and the necks are great but they just didn’t have the same “mojo” that an old Japanese made P bass has. Maybe it’s the Basswood or the massive bridge. But as far as I know some Japanese ones are also made of Basswood. It might be the bridge then. I will have to listen to more YouTube videos to see how that poplar or Nato with vintage bridge sounds like. I am aware that each bass has it’s own voice though
I have haye here a late 80's USA Peavey Fury w poplar body and Duncan SPB1 vintage P pickup, factory Schaller Fender style hardware, RW board but a J neck shape, Fender 9050 flats.

Its around 8 lbs but i should mention the poplar body sounds like a proper P bass, the neck is really nice up there with USA and Japan P types in general.

I would not be afraid of poplar body personally.

Also a 70s Masada Japan P bass but ash wings and maple center really punchy...im a fan of Japan 70s and 80s guitars in general...i played a Japan Tokai P maybe 40 years ago but it felt and sounded like a 60s Fender P bass.
 
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They're generally not bad. In fact, they can be very nice instruments. But they are a bit inconsistent, I've seen quite a few really, really bad ones. If possible, try before buying (or buy online from a store with a good return policy and no hassle with customs paperwork in case of a return).

The Chinese CVs were a step above, that's true. Those were truly amazing instruments for the price. Better than MIM Fenders and REALLY close to MIA Fenders (in some ways even better IMO). But they weren't always perfect. SOME of the Chinese CVs had wider string spacing than normal. You can easily spot these as they had high mass bridges with brass saddles. This varied a bit over the years, even on the same model. Some had saddles with standard Fender string spacing and some had the high mass bridges with slightly wider string spacing. I don't enjoy playing the ones with wider string spacing nearly as much, even though EVERY Chinese CV I've played has been a superb instrument.

Btw, did you mean you can't afford a Player series bass or that you can't afford MORE than a Player? If you can afford something close to the Player price range you might want to check out the Yamaha BB434. I have no idea what the prices and availability are in your area but normally the BB434 should cost LESS than a Player and only slightly more than a new CV. The BB434 will KILL any similarly priced Fenders/Squiers. It's easily as good as expensive MIA Fenders and the QC is much better than Fender/Squier too. The chances of getting a poor Yamaha BB are practically zero.

The ONLY good reason not to buy a BB instead of a Fender is if you want something closer to the classic, vintage Fender vibe. But the BB434 will still sound and "feel" pretty close to a classic Fender P-bass. In fact, in my opinion it will be closer to a classic, vintage P-bass than any of Fender's current MIA P-basses, where they've made too many "innovations" that takes the tone in a slightly different direction. Not necessarily bad, just a matter of taste.
Oh man, a b;ack 32 scale BB series P style Yamaha sat in a pawn for a year or more and it seems like it had some minor issue...the gal i knew said they marked it down to under $100 and i missed out....what are the odds of me finding the same 32 scale BB again in a pawn?!!!
 
You're quest is over.
No need to have to worry about the quality of the new CVs.
No need to decide who's right, all the people raving about the Walnut Precision and Limited Edition Surf Green P bass, or the few people who've found issues like fret sprout and the need for truss-rod adjustments.
If you're going to gamble, here's your best bet...certainly better than buying three new Classic Vibes and having to return two!
Oh, yeah, Crafted In China.
 
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I have haye here a late 80's USA Peavey Fury w poplar body and Duncan SPB1 vintage P pickup, factory Schaller Fender style hardware, RW board but a J neck shape, Fender 9050 flats.

Its around 8 lbs but i should mention the poplar body sounds like a proper P bass, the neck is really nice up there with USA and Japan P types in general.

I would not be afraid of poplar body personally.

Also a 70s Masada Japan P bass but ash wings and maple center really punchy...im a fan of Japan 70s and 80s guitars in general...i played a Japan Tokai P maybe 40 years ago but it felt and sounded like a 60s Fender P bass.

Yes in my experience those old Japan made early 80s basses are hard to beat. It’s just also always a gamble if the neck is straight if you can’t test before. And then usually you can’t give them back
 
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Can anybody tell me if the actual 60s and 70s Classic Vibe P Basses have the same neck shape and Pickups or if there are differences what they are?

Sire P5 basses also seem nice but don’t seem to capture the Fender vibe quite as good as the Squiers. Seems like some bottom end is missing- I just don’t know if it’s the pickups or the body. But nice necks!
 
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Can anybody tell me if the actual 60s and 70s Classic Vibe P Basses have the same neck shape and Pickups or if there are differences what they are?

Sire P5 basses also seem nice but don’t seem to capture the Fender vibe quite as good as the Squiers. Seems like some bottom end is missing- I just don’t know if it’s the pickups or the body. But nice necks!

we have one of each - as far as i can tell, the necks are the same, although they have a very different sound. the 70s is much bass heavier, but that could be sample variation as fender seems to list them as having the same pickups. when my sweetie gets up, i'll ask him to measure everything on the necks, and i'll report back.
 
we have one of each - as far as i can tell, the necks are the same, although they have a very different sound. the 70s is much bass heavier, but that could be sample variation as fender seems to list them as having the same pickups. when my sweetie gets up, i'll ask him to measure everything on the necks, and i'll report back.

Awesome!!! Thank you
 
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