I'm in the market for a Mesa Boogie amplifier, and Ive had my eyes on the 400+, although it's getting harder and harder to find ones that are for sale... does anyone know if Mesa Boogie will be resurrecting the 400+ or making an equivalent model anytime soon?
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New Mesa 400+?
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Last time I spoke to Boogie, a couple months ago, they said that there was no replacement planned yet, but he didn't rule it out in the future.
There is actually a new one for sale at a local shop here in Illinois. I suppose there may still be some around if you look hard enough.
Don't know about future production, though my reading of Mesa/Boogie is they are putting all their eggs in the "Simul-State" basket - sort of a hybrid/hybrid amp with a tube preamp section and a tube-plus-solid state power amp section.
I could be wrong, but I think the days of a multiple power tubes in bass amps is over at Mesa.
Don't know about future production, though my reading of Mesa/Boogie is they are putting all their eggs in the "Simul-State" basket - sort of a hybrid/hybrid amp with a tube preamp section and a tube-plus-solid state power amp section.
I could be wrong, but I think the days of a multiple power tubes in bass amps is over at Mesa.
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^Don't know exactly, so this is just a guess, but it's probably just a low power tube power amp between the tube pre and a SS (class D?) power amp.
Think of it like a tube amp DI'ed (from the speaker out) to a "PA" amp.
Been done several times before, but as the only consumer group for such an amp is the minority of bassplayers who want THE REAL TUBE TONE, but without the weight, none of the approaches have been a commercial success. Since the majority of tube sound, or texture would perhaps be more accurate, comes from the output stage, there's an output stage that's further amplified with SS technology to reach desired SPL.
Other possibility would be to have an SS amp crossed over below 80-100 Hz, and a tube amp over that to gain the best of both worlds.
Regards
Sam
^Don't know exactly, so this is just a guess, but it's probably just a low power tube power amp between the tube pre and a SS (class D?) power amp.
Think of it like a tube amp DI'ed (from the speaker out) to a "PA" amp.
Been done several times before, but as the only consumer group for such an amp is the minority of bassplayers who want THE REAL TUBE TONE, but without the weight, none of the approaches have been a commercial success. Since the majority of tube sound, or texture would perhaps be more accurate, comes from the output stage, there's an output stage that's further amplified with SS technology to reach desired SPL.
Other possibility would be to have an SS amp crossed over below 80-100 Hz, and a tube amp over that to gain the best of both worlds.
Regards
Sam
So would the SS power amp then kick in once the tube power amp was being fully driven or what? It's an interesting concept.
I actually just made the switch to all-tube myself, from SS mosfet. Quite happy with the sound, and the weight's not that bad at all (40 pounds or so is nothing to complain about, really).
I do see quite a few players my age lugging SVT's around, though there's quite a variety of amps being used, both SS and tube. My friend's rig certainly was not something for weight-conscious players. Old SVT head, matching 810 plus an old Sunn 2x15.
Of course I've also seen guys drag around a big, wheel-less 4x10 and a 1x18 and put a tiny GK head on top. In fact, I'd say I've seen far more variation in bass rigs than guitar amps.
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Mesa Simul State is their moniker for a hybrid amp. Take a tube amp, replace the power output tubes and transformer with mosfet transistors and let er rip.
This is different than a tube preamp and a sloid state power amp in that the phase splitter and driverstage is still tube, the only thing different is the power tubes and out put transformer.
There is some associated circuitry thats required to have the mosfets in there, but thats the concept of simul state. Tubes and solid state simultainiously.
This is different than a tube preamp and a sloid state power amp in that the phase splitter and driverstage is still tube, the only thing different is the power tubes and out put transformer.
There is some associated circuitry thats required to have the mosfets in there, but thats the concept of simul state. Tubes and solid state simultainiously.
