From here, on TB and on the news why does there "seem" to be a few who almost make an effort to disrupt this aid?
What gives?
What gives?
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New Orleans
- Thread starter mlowe
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Some conversations over the last few days have made me wonder. I don't know about the population demographic there but if it's predominantly African American may explain something.
Maybe. That was a big theory but I don't really know how accurate it is. As I recall, many of the accusations against FEMA turned out to be false or distorted... but it's not something I followed too closely.
No, but the fact that they reelected the impotent mayor who could have done the most to get people out, but did the least, speaks volumes.
Unutilized, flooded school buses:
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very big +1.
Racism is very real but it's often a very convenient smoke screen. It can often play a part, but there is virtually ALWAYS more to an issue than that.
race is indeed a smokescreen - a serious one, but nevertheless...
it seems that the gov't, above everything else, hates poor people. and considering the wealth of the current president, that's a LOT of people to hate.
from a friend who was just down there, the gov't is demanding that people return to clean up their plots of land. if not, their land will be seized by the gov't.
it seems that the gov't, above everything else, hates poor people. and considering the wealth of the current president, that's a LOT of people to hate.
from a friend who was just down there, the gov't is demanding that people return to clean up their plots of land. if not, their land will be seized by the gov't.
That seems entirely reasonable. They have spent an assload of money and time into repairing the place, it would be a shame if every 3rd neighbors pool had milaria and junk all over the front yard as well as the house.
nothing out of the ordinary
Net worth:
George W. Bush: $9-26 million
John Kerry: $165-626 million
Hillary Clinton: $10-50 million
John Edwards: 12.8-60 million
If Nawlins is going to be rebuilt, then the people who live there need to get off their butts, clean it up and rebuild and quit waiting for others to do it for them.
I'll see if I can find the article contrasting the slow process of NOLA versus a similarly stricken area in Mississippi.
I dunno. I have been down there three times now to assist with the relief work. Each time, I went on my dime and charged nothing for my labors.
To me, it just looks like plain old greed. Money is funneling in from around the world, and there are too many hands in the so called "cookie jar". Everyone wants to make money instead of making friends and helping people get their lives back.
Each time I have gone done, it has felt like a life changing experience. It has brought me to tears each time I went down. I probably have seen more black people suffering than white, but I have met and helped my share of white people who are getting hosed by the agencies in place to help them.
-Mike
To me, it just looks like plain old greed. Money is funneling in from around the world, and there are too many hands in the so called "cookie jar". Everyone wants to make money instead of making friends and helping people get their lives back.
Each time I have gone done, it has felt like a life changing experience. It has brought me to tears each time I went down. I probably have seen more black people suffering than white, but I have met and helped my share of white people who are getting hosed by the agencies in place to help them.
-Mike
that's awesome, dude.
sucks that people are looking to make money off of disaster and charity/goodwill. but who isn't, i guess....
Dear New Orleans,
Please take your trash back.
Since Hurricane Katrina, crime has sharply risen in my city, and to nobody's surprise, most of it is from NOLA gangs. In fact, the paper said here not long ago 35% of all the murders in 2006 in this city were from, you guessed it, Katrina evacuees. This is coming from 100,000 evacuees, into a city with about 3 million people. That's a startling figure.
BTW, FEMA still hasn't paid my town a dime yet for any of the services the city has provided.
Please take your trash back.
Since Hurricane Katrina, crime has sharply risen in my city, and to nobody's surprise, most of it is from NOLA gangs. In fact, the paper said here not long ago 35% of all the murders in 2006 in this city were from, you guessed it, Katrina evacuees. This is coming from 100,000 evacuees, into a city with about 3 million people. That's a startling figure.
BTW, FEMA still hasn't paid my town a dime yet for any of the services the city has provided.
This thread isn't going to end well.
The racism issue is a convenient smoke screen. It's also easy to point fingers at the federal government, but the state and local governments showed their complete and utter incompetence during the Katrina crisis.
I would also be frustrated if these evacuees were still living in my city, though. I can't imagine what it's like for the city of Houston. Everyone goes through troubles in their life...maybe not on the scale of a hurricane destroying their house, but at some point you have to pick up the pieces and move on, not expect to live on the government dole forever.
The racism issue is a convenient smoke screen. It's also easy to point fingers at the federal government, but the state and local governments showed their complete and utter incompetence during the Katrina crisis.
I would also be frustrated if these evacuees were still living in my city, though. I can't imagine what it's like for the city of Houston. Everyone goes through troubles in their life...maybe not on the scale of a hurricane destroying their house, but at some point you have to pick up the pieces and move on, not expect to live on the government dole forever.
I'm often in FL during the hurricane season and have been through one (Charlie, not a big one, but it had an effect).
I like how they're point-blank honest down there.
"Prepare. Stock up. Take care of yourself and your family, because when everything goes down, the government can't be everywhere to help everyone. You have to help yourself."
I live in PA, and I still live this way. I cannot imagine living in a hurricane state and not being prepared to evacuate or hunker down or whatever my plan would be.
I like how they're point-blank honest down there.
"Prepare. Stock up. Take care of yourself and your family, because when everything goes down, the government can't be everywhere to help everyone. You have to help yourself."
I live in PA, and I still live this way. I cannot imagine living in a hurricane state and not being prepared to evacuate or hunker down or whatever my plan would be.
It's amazing how some people manage to get elected.
Colman A. Young was mayor for 20 years here, and he literally killed Detroit, yet manage to win election after election.
This is actually the closest to the truth, I think. There has been a lot of press about how the 9th ward was flooded and the pictures of the people in the superdome, but the fact is that it isn't just black people that were stuck. Right across the tracks from the 9th ward was St. Bernards, which is just as badly hit, if not worse than the 9th. But no one says anything.
As far as money goes...well, for one thing most folks down their haven't gotten any money to rebuild. To take the example of St. Bernards again, they have something like $300 million earmarked for their recovery, but gov't bureaucracy isn't giving it to them. And when you talk about a lot of money...well, there was a lot of stuff destroyed. MJ can attest to the blocks and blocks and block of empty, destroyed and abandoned houses. Despite the ACoE claiming the contrary, New Orleans was not ready for a Cat. 5 hurricane, so pretty much everything that wasn't in the old city was flooded.
All the preparation in the world doesn't add up to much when the house has 8 ft. of water, 1.5 ft of crude oil and there's no sign of life for weeks at a time.
I find it difficult to have much sympathy for the people of that city after they reelected Nagin. Sheer stupidity.
Ugh... Another one of these.
I could go on and on about what's really happening down here, but I'm so damn tired of it by now I don't even want to get started.
Blech.
I could go on and on about what's really happening down here, but I'm so damn tired of it by now I don't even want to get started.
Blech.
