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New Pawn Shop Bass VI

Not cheap ^. Fender Japan still has them too. Not cheap. The Swiss Luthier Huort also used to make Fender Bass VI customs. Don't know if he still does though. If I remember correctly, at one point he had trouble getting hold of the floating bridges, but don't quote me on that. There are some pictures on his website.

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True, the MIJ are $1400ish. But the Pawnshop (MIM) are $800 estimated, so for someone serious about it, it's not that massive of a difference. Still, I agree, it's a bit much, but that seems due to overall Fender price hikes.
 
True, the MIJ are $1400ish. But the Pawnshop (MIM) are $800 estimated, so for someone serious about it, it's not that massive of a difference. Still, I agree, it's a bit much, but that seems due to overall Fender price hikes.

Curious to see how much these will cost in Europe. Usually, they just replace the $ sign by a € sign... :hmm:
Anyway, I don't think I ever get the chance to compare a MIM Bass VI to a MIJ Bass VI or - behold! - a vintage one. Would be nice to actually 'feel' why the later are more expensive.
 
Sorry Ken, I disagree.

We can quibble about scale length but not tuning. If it is tuned like a bass VI then it is a bass VI. Baritones are tuned higher. Certainly 30 inches is a widely accepted scale length for a short scale bass. And there are bass guitars that no one would call baritones with shorter scale lengths. At the end of the day the taxonomy of baritone vs bass VI vs 6 string short scale bass could get quite complex so all I will really insist on is that this bass VI certainly qualifies as a bass! Unless you tune it like a baritone.... :D

Ken
 
Just curious - obviously no one has one of these pawn shop series basses yet, but has anyone really done a comparison of the Fender bass VI's with a Schecter Hellcat VI or the Argus bass VI's that Rondo sells?

I also own a Schecter Hellcat. It's one heavy chunk of arsenal, I can tell you that. Rock solid guitar/bass. Three "trisonic" style mini-humbucker pickups, five-position switching (other versions have three on/off switches), volume and push-pull tone pot for coil splitting. Versatile tone pallette. I suspect it could make a great metal baritone tuned guitar, but it has awesome bass tones. It came strung with a heavier gauge (.95) and seems to do better with that. I left it Bass VI tuning.

Unfortunately, I have not yet had a chance to spend much quality time with any of the various Fender Bass VI's. Wish I could, now that they are re-issuing them.

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We can quibble about scale length but not tuning. If it is tuned like a bass VI then it is a bass VI. Baritones are tuned higher. Certainly 30 inches is a widely accepted scale length for a short scale bass. And there are bass guitars that no one would call baritones with shorter scale lengths. At the end of the day the taxonomy of baritone vs bass VI vs 6 string short scale bass could get quite complex so all I will really insist on is that this bass VI certainly qualifies as a bass! Unless you tune it like a baritone.... :D

Ken

Agreed.

I was only trying to inject that the scale length of a baritone (or any other label) is not in stone. Saying that a "baritone falls somewhere between a guitar and bass in scale" was inaccurate.

The rest of your post regarding how string gauge and tuning are the determining factors is spot-on, and that's what I was trying to emphasise. :)
 
Agreed.

I was only trying to inject that the scale length of a baritone (or any other label) is not in stone. Saying that a "baritone falls somewhere between a guitar and bass in scale" was inaccurate.

The rest of your post regarding how string gauge and tuning are the determining factors is spot-on, and that's what I was trying to emphasise. :)

Would it be right to say then, a stringed instrument is then defined by the tuning and gauge that allows said fundamental tuning?

The scale thing definately isn't part of the mix, I have a 34" scale bass, two 30.5" and recently got a 25" scale bass, pretty tiny, but it's a bass, even if it's smaller than a standard Tele or strat (trying to find strings is a nightmare).

Those fender 6er's are great for tic tac bass, and I'm sure sound amazing with flats, fuzz and tubes.
 
Would it be right to say then, a stringed instrument is then defined by the tuning and gauge that allows said fundamental tuning?

The scale thing definately isn't part of the mix, I have a 34" scale bass, two 30.5" and recently got a 25" scale bass, pretty tiny, but it's a bass, even if it's smaller than a standard Tele or strat (trying to find strings is a nightmare).

Those fender 6er's are great for tic tac bass, and I'm sure sound amazing with flats, fuzz and tubes.

Spot on. That's what Ken pointed out, basses go all the way down to 28" or less sometimes. The scale length isn't the primary determining factor for the tuning or the label you put on your stringed instrument.

And yes, there are parameters of acceptable scales for any given tuning. Go too long or too short, you run into problems with tension, tone, etc. But the 28"-30" scale range lends itself nicely to standard bass tunings, Bass VI tunings, and baritone tunings, depending on string gauge and set up.

The Dano Longhorns in the pic above started as four-string basses. They were modified to accept six strings, and I can go back and forth between Bass VI and baritone strings/tunings. It's the same for nearly all guitars in this scale range, including the Fender Bass VI.