i have a 1991 american fender precission plus bass...i want to upgrade it to american precision deluxe model ( Invalid Link Removed ).....with emg pickups and electronics....can anyone advice me on this combination and wat components should i buy...thanks
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new pickups and circuit for fender
- Thread starter bassbubbles
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If you want EMG, then it's as simple as getting the EMG PJ pickups and the EQ circuit of your choice (2 band or 3 band). It depends on how many knobs your pickguard can accept and whether the control cavity is big enough for a preamp and a battery.
Pics would help with and without the pickguard.
You can look at the EMG stuff here:
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http://bestbassgear.com/emg-preamps.htm
Pics would help with and without the pickguard.
You can look at the EMG stuff here:
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http://bestbassgear.com/emg-preamps.htm
I'm guessing that with active pickups like EMGs you won't be wanting/you can't have the active passive switch or passive tone control?
You can mod an EMG preamp to have a passive bypass switch however with active pickups i don't really see the point. Adding a passive roll off can be done but I don't really know how, someone on here could do it though I'm sure
You can mod an EMG preamp to have a passive bypass switch however with active pickups i don't really see the point. Adding a passive roll off can be done but I don't really know how, someone on here could do it though I'm sure
well i owned a hohner headless b2a bass...which had emg select and the active passive switch....the tone between active and passive was huge.....so was planning on having the similar circuit in the fender....
even if i could get a circuit diagram ...it would be cool...
i have space for 4 pots and 1 toggle switch for control....
http://www.bass-guitar-museum.com/bass-8058-Fender-American-Precision-Plus-USA
thats the model i have ....i have it in blueburst finish with maple fretboard....
i want the control to be like ......Invalid Link Removed
i used to have the hohner headless B2A bass...which had emg select pickups and active/passive toggle switch....its useful when the battery dies ...and the passive tone is completely different from active tone....this is wat i want on my fender....
the emg site doesnt guide how to wire this active passive switch to emg....
i was wondering if emg PJ pickups could be combined with bartolini preamp...
this bartolini preamp looks gud for my fender...
4.6 A/P
2 Pickup - 4 knob configuration
Controls:
- Volume (with Active/Passive push-pull)
- Blend
- Mid (push pull freq selector)
- Treble/Bass Stack.
4.6 A/P - In stock - $160
can u please let me know if this bartolini preamp would work with emg PJ set pickups...
this bartolini preamp looks gud for my fender...
4.6 A/P
2 Pickup - 4 knob configuration
Controls:
- Volume (with Active/Passive push-pull)
- Blend
- Mid (push pull freq selector)
- Treble/Bass Stack.
4.6 A/P - In stock - $160
can u please let me know if this bartolini preamp would work with emg PJ set pickups...
The basic issue you seem to be overlooking is that for an active passive switch to function truly, to allow the bass to run fully passive without battery operate components, like the new fender preamp does, you MUST have passive pickups (EMG selects are passive pickups made by EMG but all other EMG pickups are 100% active) otherwise you're active pickups, which run off a battery, will not produce any sound when the switch is used. Here lies your first issue.
this can be overcome easily with a different choice in pickups.
What sound are you after as EMG's are nice but if you want a sound achievable from other manufacturers and are so dedicated on having an active passive switch then I would recommend a different set of P/J pickups, perhaps Dimarzio or Delano.
On a similar point, I cannot say for certain but I know that almost all preamps are designed for passive pickups and will not work with active ones, as far as I know EMG make preamps for their pickups and Audere has an option for use with active pickups but, I severely doubt that a bartolinin preamp will function with EMg pickups.
My suggestion to you would be to research a different set of P/J pickups, there are plenty of amazing pickups out there in this configuration and a quite TB search will find you a lot of threads about which is best etc.
THEN if you decide to stay with EMG pickups you've got to let go of your active passive capabilities as these aren't possible with true active pickups.
OR you can have passive pickups and look into the preamps with the control layout and configuration you desire. A few recommendations for you of preamps that have or allow active passive switching in several configurations:
-John East U retro preamps - I have the deluxe 5 in a bass and it is a wonderful unit with great true passive running as well as a very useful and extensive active tones. Highly recommended and lots of options.
-Bartolini preamps- These can be configured and have a passive switch added in by the manufacturer so should fit your requirements. Great preamps too and have worked well when I've had them in basses. Their pickups are also worth a look, I love mine.
-Nordstrand Preamps - Very flexible as to how they're configured and allow for full active passive working with tone controls and push/pull pots for most switches so they look very clean and minimal but are very very powerful and highly acclaimed units. Also check out their pickups, everyone on TB seems to love them and I really want to try them.
-Audere Preamps - They have 2 types of preamps, both of which can be as extensive or simple as you want, you literally pick which controls you want or don't want. They have active passive switches as an option and seem quite affordable or such a high end custom unit. But I have no experience with them so can only recommend them on what I've heard on here.
Then there's plenty of other lesser known/used (by me at elast) companies such as MEC, Delano, Basslab, Glockenklang, Artec and many others I'm sure.
I hope this has helped in some way, feel free to ask questions but I'm not an electronics guru just a guy who likes basses and wants to help you get a good one going. Those new USA deluxe models do look amazing.
BarkerBass
this can be overcome easily with a different choice in pickups.
What sound are you after as EMG's are nice but if you want a sound achievable from other manufacturers and are so dedicated on having an active passive switch then I would recommend a different set of P/J pickups, perhaps Dimarzio or Delano.
On a similar point, I cannot say for certain but I know that almost all preamps are designed for passive pickups and will not work with active ones, as far as I know EMG make preamps for their pickups and Audere has an option for use with active pickups but, I severely doubt that a bartolinin preamp will function with EMg pickups.
My suggestion to you would be to research a different set of P/J pickups, there are plenty of amazing pickups out there in this configuration and a quite TB search will find you a lot of threads about which is best etc.
THEN if you decide to stay with EMG pickups you've got to let go of your active passive capabilities as these aren't possible with true active pickups.
OR you can have passive pickups and look into the preamps with the control layout and configuration you desire. A few recommendations for you of preamps that have or allow active passive switching in several configurations:
-John East U retro preamps - I have the deluxe 5 in a bass and it is a wonderful unit with great true passive running as well as a very useful and extensive active tones. Highly recommended and lots of options.
-Bartolini preamps- These can be configured and have a passive switch added in by the manufacturer so should fit your requirements. Great preamps too and have worked well when I've had them in basses. Their pickups are also worth a look, I love mine.
-Nordstrand Preamps - Very flexible as to how they're configured and allow for full active passive working with tone controls and push/pull pots for most switches so they look very clean and minimal but are very very powerful and highly acclaimed units. Also check out their pickups, everyone on TB seems to love them and I really want to try them.
-Audere Preamps - They have 2 types of preamps, both of which can be as extensive or simple as you want, you literally pick which controls you want or don't want. They have active passive switches as an option and seem quite affordable or such a high end custom unit. But I have no experience with them so can only recommend them on what I've heard on here.
Then there's plenty of other lesser known/used (by me at elast) companies such as MEC, Delano, Basslab, Glockenklang, Artec and many others I'm sure.
I hope this has helped in some way, feel free to ask questions but I'm not an electronics guru just a guy who likes basses and wants to help you get a good one going. Those new USA deluxe models do look amazing.
BarkerBass
wow ...ur an amazing person....u have helped me a lot in this message u send me....
well right now my bass has fender lace sensor passive pickups ...well i like this set but im looking for a more wider tonal range and more sensitivity....
so i guess if i have the fender lace sensors with a preamp like 4.6 bartolini configuration with the a/p switch ....should be gud...
im not sure which preamp to use....i have to research the companies u suggested....
but do let me know wat u think of this....
ur advice its truely appreciated....
When you say more tonal range what do you have in mind?
If I'm honest I don't think you're going to get and EMG tone from a passive pickup if that's what you're after but, you can get a very broad tonal range from good pickups.
If I were getting a set of P/J pickups I'd want the P p'up to be thick and grindy and the bridge pickup to be strong, tight and aggressive. For that sort of tone Delanos seem to stand out to me, there's plenty of threads about them on here so just search for them.
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this p pickup matched to a jazz splitcoil humbucker would allow hum free blending and quite a broad tonal range which can be tweaked with the EQ system you choose.
Just do a few searches in the bass pickup forum and see what P/J sets are reviewed like.
Hope this helps.
If I'm honest I don't think you're going to get and EMG tone from a passive pickup if that's what you're after but, you can get a very broad tonal range from good pickups.
If I were getting a set of P/J pickups I'd want the P p'up to be thick and grindy and the bridge pickup to be strong, tight and aggressive. For that sort of tone Delanos seem to stand out to me, there's plenty of threads about them on here so just search for them.
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this p pickup matched to a jazz splitcoil humbucker would allow hum free blending and quite a broad tonal range which can be tweaked with the EQ system you choose.
Just do a few searches in the bass pickup forum and see what P/J sets are reviewed like.
Hope this helps.
