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New Rumble arrived today...dissapointed.

#82
danosix said:
The other thing to do is turn up the amp (somewhere you can) and get AWAY from it by about 20 feet. With a cabinet that size the bass frequencies kindof "appear" a distance in front of the amp because of the difference in length of the wave versus the size of the cab - that's why traditionally loud bass cabs where large). You may find you have plenty of bass and just aren't hearing it when playing it up close.
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Huh ?

Please explain headphones then.
 
#84
This is not the third bad Rumble it's the second. The 100 was good just not loud enough. I had a 200 for a day but then it made a very loud popping noise then would not stop hissing so back it went. I played this Blacktop through a 200 and 100 at the store. The 200 sounded pretty good and gave me good lows, better than the 100. I was told and read that the 500 would be better than the 200 so that's what I ordered. Yes Iv'e tried different rooms, cables( both of which are new and fine on my guitar), different outlets, and every combo of knob on the bass and amp. The amp is plugged into a nice multi- outlet surge protector that supposedly cleans up your power and it indicates a good ground. My guitar amp is plugged into the same place and has no trouble. I tried standing further away but it doesn't seem to matter. I am going to return it to GC since they are only a few miles away and see what they have to try.
 
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#86
RColie said:
I would be very interested in hearing more about the differences in the 112 vs the 210 Rumble v3 cabinets. I'm in the process of deciding between the two configurations and if you could add some detail to what you heard I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks very much!
Bob
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The Rumble 210 cab was muddy and indistinct. Kinda boomy, mid-scooped, and dull overall.

The 112 was also newer V3, but sounded cleaner and crisper. The lows were present, but tighter than the 210, with more upper-mid clarity. In some ways, the overall Rumble 500/112 stack was a bit reminiscent of my ShuttleMax9.2/Berg AE112. Not nearly as refined, but it has some of the same clarity that was otherwise missing with the Rumble 210 cab.

I'm not here to claim that the Fender sounds just as good as any boutique, just that I was surprised at how much better it sounded than most of the budget amps in the same class. It has a nice feature set and a good price. It's probably not as road-worthy as most of the higher-end amps I've ever owned, but it sounded better than I was willing to give it credit for - once I switched to the 112.
 
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Bass_Pounder said:
Huh ?

Please explain headphones then.
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Heres how I understand the difference between headphone Bass and room Bass. Headphones pressurise the ear canal easily, the sound wave can't really escape, so you tend to hear Bass quite well and even. Not many reflections going on inside there.
In a room, especially at lower frequencies with long wavelengths, the bass can be really uneven. A 40z sound, like an open E string, has a wavelength of about 8 meters, and the sound will reflect and bounce in different ways around the room and can become a real mess sometimes. If you happen to be standing at a peak of a wave you will hear a loud Bass note, and if you happen to be standing in a dip of that wave, the Bass will be weak. Plus other factors like the type of floor the amp is on can have a great effect on the Bass you hear standing in from of the amp.
 
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Mark Hughes said:
Heres how I understand the difference between headphone Bass and room Bass. Headphones pressurise the ear canal easily, the sound wave can't really escape, so you tend to hear Bass quite well and even. Not many reflections going on inside there.
In a room, especially at lower frequencies with long wavelengths, the bass can be really uneven. A 40z sound, like an open E string, has a wavelength of about 8 meters, and the sound will reflect and bounce in different ways around the room and can become a real mess sometimes. If you happen to be standing at a peak of a wave you will hear a loud Bass note, and if you happen to be standing in a dip of that wave, the Bass will be weak. Plus other factors like the type of floor the amp is on can have a great effect on the Bass you hear standing in from of the amp.
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That still does not explain how an 8ft 40hz wave is heard with headphones...........

P.S. - I am pulling the posters leg because it has already been established that the sound does NOT need room to develop.
 
#93
OP if you like Dave Mathews Band with Stefan Lessard, then check out his rig. He uses modeling on stage. Now with modeling you still need and amp and speakers. That's easily covered with a powered PA cab.

Try playing an mp3 through the Rumble and see if it doesn't rumble.
The Rumble should do it, but it's not going to have all the tone variations modeling would.
 
#95
Ok so I took the amp back to GC. The dude plugged in in and proceeded to crank the crap out of it. It sounded louder than it did at my house. I told him it did that once before but then quieted back down. I also told him how weak it was with the Ipod plugged in. The amp was still lacking in lows however even after he adjusted everything six ways from Sunday. The speakers didn't sound clear and seemed to me to be distorted, especially with the low end. The GC dude seemed happy with it though. I told him I would look at their limited selection of bass amps.
I plugged my bass into a 200w 1x15 acoustic model B200 MKII and loved it, huge presence. It had the really clean lows I like but had plenty of EQ options for just about any sound. It was also very loud. It did make a very loud popping noise when turning it off or on and the cab seemed to rattle a lot but I couldn't find where. The B100 MKII next to it turned on but didn't do anything else so I don't know if it was blown up or what. Are these good amps?
I also tried a Mark Bass 200w 1x15 and it was pretty good but did not have the presence of the Acoustic.
The GC guy also suggested I put flat wound string on my bass if I wanted it to mellow out some. I only played one bass with flat wounds for a minute. I didn't care for the bass and didn't give the strings much though other than they did seem easier on the fingers.
In the end I returned the amp for a refund. GC thinks it's ok but I still think something is wrong with it. I also think I prefer the sound of a 15" speaker.
I would like to play a GK and a Ampeg Ba115 V2. I will have to see what some of the other local stores have and there is another GC about 35 miles from me.
 
#96
And to add... I have a Rumble V3 500.
I also have a Mesa titan v12
The rumble in no way is lacking in power or low end.
It doesn't have the power flexibility or flavor of the Mesa but it is a surprisingly capable backup.
It sounds great eq nearly flat. With the vintage button engaged.
I have used it to great satisfaction through all 3 of my cabs at rehearsals and shows.
Mesa EV loaded 15
EA VL 310
EA CX 310 concert
With my Warwick Dolphin, my Squier VMP5 and my fret less ABG....
Very nice amp I actually think it rivals the Mark bass heads I have had.
Not as nice as the GKMB 800 but feels more solid and looks great! With the cupcake knobs (my Mesa head has the same knobs)
 
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