• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

New Tapes/Flats

I'd like to stick with flats or tapes as I love the smoothness, and I want a nice long string life too. ...[snip]... and perhaps a little more bite.

Labella 760N nylon tapewounds.

I've used 760Ns on several of my fretless basses, and they always delivered solid, clear low end, and a nice articulate high end that's not too bright but has just the right amount of "zing!" ...which might be the "bite" that you're looking for.

Long string life? The set of 760Ns that's currently on my Rob Allen is the original set that came on that bass when I got it...14 years ago!
 
LaBella flats come in five gauges - Low Tension, Light, Standard, Medium, and Originals - from low to high. I suggest getting the light or standards, and see how they feel to you. You can even customize gauges string by string, and still have a custom set.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hop Jam
Labella 760N nylon tapewounds.

I've used 760Ns on several of my fretless basses, and they always delivered solid, clear low end, and a nice articulate high end that's not too bright but has just the right amount of "zing!" ...which might be the "bite" that you're looking for.

Long string life? The set of 760Ns that's currently on my Rob Allen is the original set that came on that bass when I got it...14 years ago!

Nice! What's the sustain like on them?
 
I am the original owner of a 1969 Fender Precision bass, which I converted to fretless in the early 70s. Needless to say, I've had lots of different strings on it over the years. Most of the time it has had flatwounds on it, although I often felt it was a bit too dull in the mix. But whenever I put round wounds on it, I simply stop playing the bass. For quite a few years now I've been using the Labella nylon strings on this bass, which I feel is the best of both worlds for this instrument. They are not crazy dull like most flatwounds, but definitely a far cry from rounds. They make them in two different tensions. The lighter tension is ridiculously light, my guess is that you won't like those. They make several different versions, but they are much more similar than different. And even if they may seem expensive, that won't matter as they last forever. Even more so than flat wound strings. So my advice is try those.
 
As much as I like the tone I've heard on demos, I feel they may be too low tension for my tastes.
Youll REALLY hate the White Nylon tapes then. Boiled spaghetti noodles. I mean, nearly the flexibility the G string on a nylon string guitar. I could not play them. At all.

I quite enjoy Chromes and find a higher tensioned feel more appealing myself. I do have a set of TI Jazz flats on one of my basses and they're incredible. I don't find them to be annoyingly loosey goosey. Although if you tend to pluck close to the neck I could see them being too flexible for some people.

Tried them on another bass of mine and it was no way Jose within a day lol. Different basses react differently to different strings, as my credit card statement can attest to for the last 3 years. I would say they're worth a try. The La Bella White nylons? Don't waste your money. You'll hate them instantly.
 
  • Like
Reactions: J_Bass
Youll REALLY hate the White Nylon tapes then. Boiled spaghetti noodles. I mean, nearly the flexibility the G string on a nylon string guitar. I could not play them. At all.

I quite enjoy Chromes and find a higher tensioned feel more appealing myself. I do have a set of TI Jazz flats on one of my basses and they're incredible. I don't find them to be annoyingly loosey goosey. Although if you tend to pluck close to the neck I could see them being too flexible for some people.

Tried them on another bass of mine and it was no way Jose within a day lol. Different basses react differently to different strings, as my credit card statement can attest to for the last 3 years. I would say they're worth a try. The La Bella White nylons? Don't waste your money. You'll hate them instantly.

Were the nylons you tried 50s or 60s? La Bella makes all their sets in both
 
  • Like
Reactions: Element Zero
I am a big Chromes fan and have them on several basses. However, I will say the I am really enjoying Labella Black Tapes on my #1 P bass this week and will probably take that bass to my little busking gig today. I use TIs on my fretless and acoustic basses and have also used the White tapes, which I liked, but are more of a round sound and don't last as long for me.
Side note, I do eventually change my Chromes when they loose definition, can be a few years on a set before this happens, for me, depending on how much the bass is getting played.
 
Were the nylons you tried 50s or 60s? La Bella makes all their sets in both
Ooh forgot they made a heavier set too. I tried the 50s. The B is the same .135 and was unplayable for me. If I had gone the way of the 60 set I would've had to file my brass nut larger and there's no way I was gonna do that lol. I doubt the increase in size of the rest of the strings would've made much difference, but I very well could be wrong.

I'll reiterate. I did not find TI Jazz Flats to be even remotely as floppy as Talk Bass would've had me believe.
 
I am a big Chromes fan and have them on several basses. However, I will say the I am really enjoying Labella Black Tapes on my #1 P bass this week and will probably take that bass to my little busking gig today. I use TIs on my fretless and acoustic basses and have also used the White tapes, which I liked, but are more of a round sound and don't last as long for me.
Side note, I do eventually change my Chromes when they loose definition, can be a few years on a set before this happens, for me, depending on how much the bass is getting played.

I kind of wrote off the black tapes as a one-trick pony, no sustain and a boomy upright sound, but that may be my knowledge of the Rotosound 88s getting in the way.

TIs do seem to be very popular.

When I used them on my fretted, I changed my chromes after 2 years. On my fretless, I've only had them 10 months and they still have a lot of bite, they've just never delivered the desired definition on the E string.
 
Ooh forgot they made a heavier set too. I tried the 50s. The B is the same .135 and was unplayable for me. If I had gone the way of the 60 set I would've had to file my brass nut larger and there's no way I was gonna do that lol. I doubt the increase in size of the rest of the strings would've made much difference, but I very well could be wrong.

I'll reiterate. I did not find TI Jazz Flats to be even remotely as floppy as Talk Bass would've had me believe.

Fair enough. It's nice to know that TIs aren't like spaghetti, as they seem to be the consensus for the best flats around, it's just difficult to know what the tension will be like comparable to my 45 chromes.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Element Zero
it's just difficult to know what the tension will be like comparable to my 45 chromes.
It's not just tension there's feel.

Been on building sites close to 40 year, hand strength is not an issue. TI Jazz flats feel like bass strings, Chromes feel like fence wire :thumbsup: EBMM Cobalts are a heavier gauge fence wire :roflmao:

My favourite tapes were Status Hot Wires. They were made in a lighter gauge by Picato, no longer with us :(
 
I kind of wrote off the black tapes as a one-trick pony, no sustain and a boomy upright sound, but that may be my knowledge of the Rotosound 88s getting in the way.

TIs do seem to be very popular.

When I used them on my fretted, I changed my chromes after 2 years. On my fretless, I've only had them 10 months and they still have a lot of bite, they've just never delivered the desired definition on the E string.
My only current experience with the black tapes are labella and they have a fairly bright sound, but even, a bit like broken in rounds. The TI work great for some of my basses and not so great on others. Both are expensive to just try out. I also do not have an issue with my Chrome E strings, but all of this is super subjective.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Element Zero
That's fair, they take some getting used to.
If you like Chromes, the feel and the general tone Roto 77 are pretty close in my opinion. But they seem to wear non-linear, like one day they sound great then the next they are more dead than my preference.
LaBella DTF feel good, more tension than TI, maybe a little less than Chromes, they have a very rich tone that I use on my fretlesses. And their tapes are nice, I use LB tapes on an acoustic bass guitar. I get what you're saying about the low tension of TI.
My thinking is get 2 or 3 sets and see what ends up on top. It's all personal preference, no right answer.

I love LB on my fretlesses, they feel very good to me. That is what I use on my 73 maple neck in my avatar.
Interesting comment on the flats for an acoustic. I have a Fender Kingman that I love except for the fact that the roundwounds (Fender 8020 Phosphor Bronze) are so incredibly "scratchy" when changing hand positions. Flats would pretty much cure this, I'd think. I use flats on a P but for some reason have had an unconscious assumption that the acoustic HAD to have rounds, until now.
Question: do you sacrifice volume?
Also, the LB flats you use, are these the "Deep Talking Bass" strings?