• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

New Trace Elliot ELF 1×10" and 1×8" Combos

I guess I don't really see the point of an expensive maybe BARELY gigable combo when you could just pay slightly more and have the separate head and cab/s and have a LOT more flexibility.

FAKE EDIT: Actually, the 1x10 combo is literally the EXACT same price as the 1x10 cab and the head. So now I REALLY don't see the point.

Peavey started out so strong with Trace when they first bought them, I really don't understand what their business model is at this point. If they brought out a class D version of the AH 600-12 at a competitive price I think they could compete with the Subway stuff, etc... The Elf stuff is frankly kind of toy like compared to the initial run, and not just in terms of weight, but features and sound. They already own that technology, all they would have to do is maybe change the form factor a bit for a smaller size and pair it to a 500+ watt class D power section (which they also already have).

I already expressed disappointment with these when they were announced, and it's taken like 2 freakin years or something for them to even come to market for something which is just a combination of 2 products they were already making. Peavey have been in business for 50 years, they should be well rehearsed in setting up a CNC production line, especially for an existing product series where a lot of the parts are surely the same and you just need some new pieces to make everything fit together.
 
I guess I don't really see the point of an expensive maybe BARELY gigable combo when you could just pay slightly more and have the separate head and cab/s and have a LOT more flexibility.

FAKE EDIT: Actually, the 1x10 combo is literally the EXACT same price as the 1x10 cab and the head. So now I REALLY don't see the point.

Peavey started out so strong with Trace when they first bought them, I really don't understand what their business model is at this point. If they brought out a class D version of the AH 600-12 at a competitive price I think they could compete with the Subway stuff, etc... The Elf stuff is frankly kind of toy like compared to the initial run, and not just in terms of weight, but features and sound. They already own that technology, all they would have to do is maybe change the form factor a bit for a smaller size and pair it to a 500+ watt class D power section (which they also already have).

I already expressed disappointment with these when they were announced, and it's taken like 2 freakin years or something for them to even come to market for something which is just a combination of 2 products they were already making. Peavey have been in business for 50 years, they should be well rehearsed in setting up a CNC production line, especially for an existing product series where a lot of the parts are surely the same and you just need some new pieces to make everything fit together.
I've learned in life that if you don't know what a person is up to, it's a sign that either they're playing underwater 4-d chess and you just don't understand it, or they're waist-deep in syrup.
 
I should preface this by saying that I own 2 Elf heads, 2 - 2X8 Elf cabs, and the 1X10 Elf cab. If they came out with the 1X10 combo tomorrow I would buy one. I also have a very nice big rig that I almost never use.

It sounds like you have no need for any of the Trace gear, Omega Monkey, and that is fine. It fits my situation, but it is not for everyone. I play in a band doing mainly weddings and corporate functions. We play a lot. I could easily do most of my gigs (and have) on the Elf and 1X10. For us, quiet and portable makes money.

Trace Elliot was not the biggest name when they were in their heyday. They can't really sell the products that made them famous originally as they have even less brand recognition now.

The Elf may be a toy as far as you are concerned, but I would be willing to bet that toy has made me more money than the vast majority of big rigs on this list...;)
 
Fun fact #1: If you make a combo people will buy it.

It beats me how a 108 combo could sell at the price point but maybe that's been confirmed by a lack of pre orders.

The 110 could be a handy enough thing for my rehearsals but I am way too tight fisted for spending that way.

I dare say it would be fine for some of my gigs where there is full PA support also. I never really know what I am going to get so it is all around a non starter for me.

None of that is ever causing me to nut off about how useless a thing a small expensive combo is to the whole world. Refer to fun fact #1.
 
I had a coupla Peavey/TE (Prototype) 'Elves' a few years... they were bigger- then!! :smug: :bassist: :hyper:

61857293-42A6-4D54-BC0D-5C6FF6DC4EEA.jpeg
8A05AFE1-9E53-4D08-B216-5E01BE9904D6.jpeg
 
I bought a GB Shuttle 3.08T combo when they came out. Was pricey - but I ended up using the head with an SWR 8x8 cab for gigs. Never did much with the 1x8 cab but was handy for quick in-house quiet jams or bedroom practicing.

Can you separate the head from the cab in those Elfs? That's what made the Shuttle so great - two thumb screws and the head slid out.
 
  • Like
Reactions: srayb
I guess I don't really see the point of an expensive maybe BARELY gigable combo when you could just pay slightly more and have the separate head and cab/s and have a LOT more flexibility.

FAKE EDIT: Actually, the 1x10 combo is literally the EXACT same price as the 1x10 cab and the head. So now I REALLY don't see the point.

Peavey started out so strong with Trace when they first bought them, I really don't understand what their business model is at this point. If they brought out a class D version of the AH 600-12 at a competitive price I think they could compete with the Subway stuff, etc... The Elf stuff is frankly kind of toy like compared to the initial run, and not just in terms of weight, but features and sound. They already own that technology, all they would have to do is maybe change the form factor a bit for a smaller size and pair it to a 500+ watt class D power section (which they also already have).

I already expressed disappointment with these when they were announced, and it's taken like 2 freakin years or something for them to even come to market for something which is just a combination of 2 products they were already making. Peavey have been in business for 50 years, they should be well rehearsed in setting up a CNC production line, especially for an existing product series where a lot of the parts are surely the same and you just need some new pieces to make everything fit together.
The ELF seems to have sold really well, at least based on how quickly mine sold on reverb, with a happy customer. It seems to have been a win.

I liked it well enough but play hot pickups with a heavy hand and it just didn't have the headroom and response i crave.

People like combos at low price points. It sort of makes sense to me I dunno
 
I guess I don't really see the point of an expensive maybe BARELY gigable combo when you could just pay slightly more and have the separate head and cab/s and have a LOT more flexibility.

FAKE EDIT: Actually, the 1x10 combo is literally the EXACT same price as the 1x10 cab and the head. So now I REALLY don't see the point.

Peavey started out so strong with Trace when they first bought them, I really don't understand what their business model is at this point. If they brought out a class D version of the AH 600-12 at a competitive price I think they could compete with the Subway stuff, etc... The Elf stuff is frankly kind of toy like compared to the initial run, and not just in terms of weight, but features and sound. They already own that technology, all they would have to do is maybe change the form factor a bit for a smaller size and pair it to a 500+ watt class D power section (which they also already have).

I already expressed disappointment with these when they were announced, and it's taken like 2 freakin years or something for them to even come to market for something which is just a combination of 2 products they were already making. Peavey have been in business for 50 years, they should be well rehearsed in setting up a CNC production line, especially for an existing product series where a lot of the parts are surely the same and you just need some new pieces to make everything fit together.
Maybe being made in China caused the delay?