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NEW USA ACOUSTIC 360 AVAILABLE!!!

#22
First of all, a note to George: kudos to you for staying the course despite all the nay-sayers. There will always be a certain percentage of humans that will find fault with what other humans do. Welcome to life on planet Earth. Just realize that there are many bassists who are glad that you are pursuing this project and they look forward to your products coming to market whenever that occurs.

Secondly, I could care less whether your amps become available tomorrow or five years from now, I know one thing.....I will be interested in that 360/361 mini (15") rig.
 
#23
zon6c-f said:
I spoke with George...It's true...it's real. Call the number posted in the OP...Look at the "unofficial" acoustic site...read it. Call the number..George answers, not a voicemail...ever. He told me prices, but I am not at liberty to divulge...call George. It's his baby, not mine.

I am dissappointed with those here, who were doubters, or thought it was a ruse, even when pictures were produced...just plain ignorance...but hey..it's the internet and it's a forum.

Congratulations, good luck and best wishes, George. Here's to a long future with ACOUSTIC U.S.A.

LATER....zon6c-f [ aka rikfenzon on the "unofficial" acoustic control site]
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I'll be eating my doubting monkey words when these things are flooding the market. Why I bet the even sell 10's of these.

What's the street price? $5000?
Usually when you announce a product, you announce a retail price in your press release. Oh, and a press release.

I know the USA can make products that compete in the global markets. High quality at a good value. So I'll gladly eat my words with a tequila chaser if these storm the market.
 
#24
Well, that was another concern that I had "way back when"...was the price point.

Will they be too expensive for the market? Hell, I don't have a clue..But I do recall them being "something like" $5,000 for a 360/361.

But to be fair, the 360/361 rig is their "top-o-the-line" rig...as I understand it, there will be a smaller 15" version of the same and a wide variety of cabs and amps...so I can imagine that there will be a wide variety of prices..
 
#26
There are head units in Final Assembly and Test at this moment. I know this for a fact. The first couple dozen are already spoken for by people who've already called George and put in their dibs. This is how it's going to work for the first builds and possibly longer, so if you're interested in purchasing, you need to do the same -- I can almost guarantee a waiting list will form.
 
#30
Not sure at all about price. They took a stab at it back in the '09 brochure, so they're probably out of date by now. Keep in mind this is a limited-build/hand-built/USA-built effort, with the beating heart of Russ Allee (yeah, THAT Russ Allee -- "The Godfather") in every unit, and under the supervision of George in person. Email or call George and he'll answer any questions you have. Don't let the fact that he's the ACC-USA Chief throw you off; he's a great guy, down-to-earth, and real easy to talk to. Plus maybe you'll get to hear him say, "Hang on a sec" while he takes a moment to speak with one of the builders out in the manufacturing floorspace, LOL. That happened to me a couple of times. Go ahead and make the call.
 
#31
On the "wait" question, it's gonna depend on what you want. As I've mentioned elsewhere, ACCUSA is offering a picnic table full of goodies this time around. Some will be in greater demand than than others. For the high-demand items, which I assume are the traditional/industrial-strength part numbers, the guys who got on the list three months ago will get their kit weeks earlier than will the guys who waited until this week to get on the list. For the newer designs, the wait, if there is one, might be less, IF George decides to build+stock them in anticipation of orders rather than in response to orders. In any case, I doubt there'll be much available bandwidth on the build floor, especially in the near term, because many orders will derive from pure desire rather than from justifiable need. Desire often is impatient, especially when its right butt cheek is getting the third degree from a burning billfold.
 
#32
Stingray5 said:
I'm guessing it'll be what, about a 3 month wait?
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Considering that Buster Brown announced that they were "available" 5 months ago, and apparently none have been delivered, I wouldn't be holding my breath.
I suspect that this is just some perverse practical joke or possibly some sort of marketing exercise, and that there are probably posters that are “in” on the ruse, but sadly many well meaning TBer's have been sucked into becoming unwitting shills as well.

I suppose time will tell.
 
#33
I'll be the first to admit that much of it is extrapolation on my part, but it is based on what I have seen with my eyes. Hey, look, I don't really care one way or the other. I'm happy with what I have, and there isn't one blue stripe to be found -- I've got no skin in this game. What I say doesn't matter. What anyone says doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the scheduled date for the unit you're on the list for. Everything else is buzz. The people who are serious about this kit will call George. The people who aren't, won't. That's the dividing line.
 
#36
Damn good question. Problem is, the old kit falls into three categories: a) road-worn but still serviceable, b) well-preserved, and c) refurbished. So, I think the answer varies. There might be some pride-of-ownership value to the old kit, but apart from that, I don't see how the arrival of the new line could do anything but depress the current values of the used stuff.

Now... you might get some REALLY weird weirdness going on: Say the new kit gets out there and takes off like a rocket because everyone's suddenly reminded of just how good this stuff was, but George's guys can't keep up with the demand that comes of that, so the demand shifts over to the used kit that's out there, causing its prices to ratchet up. (The statistical probability of that is precisely 0.08, which basically means what the hell do I know, LOL.)
 
#37
craig.p said:
Not sure at all about price. They took a stab at it back in the '09 brochure, so they're probably out of date by now. Keep in mind this is a limited-build/hand-built/USA-built effort, with the beating heart of Russ Allee (yeah, THAT Russ Allee -- "The Godfather") in every unit, and under the supervision of George in person. Email or call George and he'll answer any questions you have. Don't let the fact that he's the ACC-USA Chief throw you off; he's a great guy, down-to-earth, and real easy to talk to. Plus maybe you'll get to hear him say, "Hang on a sec" while he takes a moment to speak with one of the builders out in the manufacturing floorspace, LOL. That happened to me a couple of times. Go ahead and make the call.
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Hmmm… After reading this miasma of misapplied buzz words and marketing/manufacturing liaison “insider speak”, let me rephrase my previously posted ”is just some perverse practical joke or possibly a marketing exercise” with “likely an amateurish, bush league marketing exercise”.
The “brass ring”; or barometer of success, seems to be to generate phone calls.

craig.p said:
I'll be the first to admit that much of it is extrapolation on my part, but it is based on what I have seen with my eyes. Hey, look, I don't really care one way or the other. I'm happy with what I have, and there isn't one blue stripe to be found -- I've got no skin in this game . What I say doesn't matter. What anyone says doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the scheduled date for the unit you're on the list for. Everything else is buzz. The people who are serious about this kit will call George. The people who aren't, won't. That's the dividing line.
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Of course all of this is just an instinct induced “hunch” on my part, but that said;

Nice try at damage control, but I think you’ve already tipped your hand Craig. ;) Once again the pimp to make a phone call; yeah, that’s the measure.

Well, I’m not going to bite on the phone call ploy, so, where can I take retail delivery of one? If direct from the manufacturer, in which state is this ACCUSA you refer to incorporated? Phones can ring anywhere now days, I don't want to go on a wild goose chase; particularly since a cursory check shows the number as belonging to a freekin' pawn shop in Greenville, PA.
If your referenced ACCUSA is NOT the corporate entity, what is the name of the corporation? It’s a fairly simple matter to research for corporate entities, pretty easy to find mfg. permits and licensing data, particularly straight forward if it’s also the retail entity, you know, all those bothersome FTC regulations and whatnot…
I mean; it IS a real entity, is it not, Craig? You claim have had numerous phone and direct contacts with them, isn’t this correct?

Nothing personal, it’s all in fun, right? :D I know that I think its fun, anyway! ;)
 
#38
Ah. Libel. How charming, Ed.

I used ACCUSA as shorthand notation. If you want to get all tangled up in that nit, then by all means feel free to do so. You want the name of the company? Call George and ask him. I already know what it is, LOL, 'cause it was right at the bottom of the mini-catalog he sent me.

You're making this WAY too difficult for yourself. You're letting this implode on you. Look, it's really not all that difficult. There is bass equipment to be had. It is being built. You can get some of it if you want. The purpose of calling George is to get details on the company, to hear what's been going on, and to sign up for some of the bass equipment if you decide it appeals. If you don't want details on the company, don't to hear what's been going on, and don't want to sign up for some of the bass equipment, then don't call. Either way, I really don't care.
 
#39
edbass said:
Considering that Buster Brown announced that they were "available" 5 months ago, and apparently none have been delivered, I wouldn't be holding my breath.
I suspect that this is just some perverse practical joke or possibly some sort of marketing exercise, and that there are probably posters that are “in” on the ruse, but sadly many well meaning TBer's have been sucked into becoming unwitting shills as well.

I suppose time will tell.
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yea, my comment was tongue-in-cheek. I forgot the sarcastic smiley.. ;)
 

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