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New Wren&Cuff pedal - Tall Font Russian
- Thread starter dannybuoy
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Whoa!
Did you end up getn it with a clean blend?
.....I wonder if the clean blend changes the tone of the pedal, compared to one without the blend, with the blend knob turned to 100% wet?
I'm really interested now - I've had the SC as my main fuzz for a few years now, even cloned it so I'd never be without it! haha
What are the mids like with the TFR?
Is the scoop really noticeable like on the black russian muffs, or is it closer to flat like the supercollider?
Did you end up getn it with a clean blend?
.....I wonder if the clean blend changes the tone of the pedal, compared to one without the blend, with the blend knob turned to 100% wet?
I'm really interested now - I've had the SC as my main fuzz for a few years now, even cloned it so I'd never be without it! haha
What are the mids like with the TFR?
Is the scoop really noticeable like on the black russian muffs, or is it closer to flat like the supercollider?
I had my second practice using the TFR. I was a little worried about the first practice, because it didn't sound as good as it did at home on my practice amp. Then I realized I played my bass with rounds at home and had my bass with flats at practice.
Got the chance tonight to take roundwound bass to practice and there was the sound. It sounds close to perfect with that bass. I threw the flats on the other bass as an experiment and was mostly enjoying it, but if I want to use that one for gigs, I'll need to put rounds back on it.
Pedal isn't going anywhere, its the perfect "traditional" complement to my other more synthy distortion pedal.
Got the chance tonight to take roundwound bass to practice and there was the sound. It sounds close to perfect with that bass. I threw the flats on the other bass as an experiment and was mostly enjoying it, but if I want to use that one for gigs, I'll need to put rounds back on it.
Pedal isn't going anywhere, its the perfect "traditional" complement to my other more synthy distortion pedal.
I definitely agree with the Musket part...of course I never played the V2 Musket, but did not think it had anywhere near enough lowend to the sound.
Oxide right?
Yeah I use flats exclusively - so a more gritty - rather than smooth muff has me very interested.
Have you had a chance to compare with a supercollider as well?
These are interesting points - so it held up well in a band setting? I have the tri pie and find it sounds amazing by itself but is guilty of hiding under guitar frequencies. I also have a musket v2 and if you dial it in right the bottom end is ok - the problem for me is it has so much god damn gain at the setting I like, it causes feedback like a raped pig.
I wonder if there is a place for a TFR and a Tri Pie on the same board?
Its one of those things that really depends on your particular band/mix. I play with only one guitarist (and a drummer) who plays a epiphone Casino through a Fender Deville 4x10 (hate that thing) who only uses a little distortion. I have a lot of room in the mix to be heard.
As far as having a Tri Pie and a TFR, it's whatever your opinion is...I listened to all the clips on W&C's website and thought the TFR sounded the best for what I was looking for, so I don't think I'd ever want to have both as a bass player.
yer. i'm also doing one keyboardist, no guitarist right now. and the songs are written bass first mostly, so i gets lots of rooms.
but a Xero and a PPB are different enough to justify having both on my board at the same time. i've gone through phases where there's 4 or 5 fuzzes on board, but really... the differences live are negligable unless you're geeking out HARD. and only other musicians in the crowd are doing that. lulz.... and they're never gonna be happy with what you're doing anyways.
so for me, 2 different fuzz tones is plenty of variety live.
but a Xero and a PPB are different enough to justify having both on my board at the same time. i've gone through phases where there's 4 or 5 fuzzes on board, but really... the differences live are negligable unless you're geeking out HARD. and only other musicians in the crowd are doing that. lulz.... and they're never gonna be happy with what you're doing anyways.
so for me, 2 different fuzz tones is plenty of variety live.
I'm basically using 3 dirt sounds live, but the setting I'm using on the TFR, though very different, can sit in place of the Foldback distortion setting I use on the SA Multiwave, in fact a couple of songs will now use the TFR instead. I also use the Multiwave for my overdrive sound which I love. All the dirt I need at the moment.
yeah. i go a dirt box for light to grindy distortion, PPB for main cutting fuzz and Oxide for synthy, deeper, gated fuzz. plenty for what i'm doing.
Wren and Cuff
Commercial User
Hi FS. Sounds like the Pickle B may serve you better. Remember, the Tri-Pie's goal was to duplicate a triangle knob, warts and all. With the Pickle, I had free rein to tweak anything I wanted to accommodate the bass and tackle the disappearing bass fuzz syndrome.
Something to note: I was surprised to find that Scott from Weezer actually preferred a Tri-Pie with no clean blend (yes, I'm name dropping so everyone will think I'm cool
). He uses the Pickle B, but told me is leaning toward the Tri lately. I honestly didn't think that'd be the case, but was able to attend a rehearsal and must say his sound was sick. But as you probably know, their sound is pretty straight up rock. P-bass into SVT BTW.
-matt
Wren and Cuff
Commercial User
much different. one of the things that makes the russian desireable is it's lowered gain. it's almost a "dist" or "over-drive" as opposed to a fuzz. Plus, much different EQ, brighter.
Tri-pie = smooth and fuzzy
TFR = toothy and gritty
Tri-pie = smooth and fuzzy
TFR = toothy and gritty
The clips on the website are fairly telling of the difference. Listen to them with a good set of headphones or speakers and you'll have a preference.
Wren and Cuff
Commercial User
I'm actually updating those. that was done with a proto. Before launching the "real" one's, we further tweaked to get it even closer to the original. Check back in a few days for updated samps. It's not a ton different from the sample though...
One thing we did (that no-one else does as far as I know) was to modify the volume and dist pots. It was driving me nuts because I knew there was something missing in the proto. it was very close, but not dead on. The pots stated value on the vintage unit was way off. But that was one of the things that made the one I chose to clone a great one.
Also part of the reason the Russians can vary so much. Those pots on the original are a joke. really, really, bad. I mean really crappy. But the one's with the "right" amount of inaccuracy could be great. But they weren't all great...
For anyone who doesn't know electronics terms: pot = knobs you turn, vol, dist, etc.
One thing we did (that no-one else does as far as I know) was to modify the volume and dist pots. It was driving me nuts because I knew there was something missing in the proto. it was very close, but not dead on. The pots stated value on the vintage unit was way off. But that was one of the things that made the one I chose to clone a great one.
Also part of the reason the Russians can vary so much. Those pots on the original are a joke. really, really, bad. I mean really crappy. But the one's with the "right" amount of inaccuracy could be great. But they weren't all great...
For anyone who doesn't know electronics terms: pot = knobs you turn, vol, dist, etc.
