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NEWB QUESTION ALERT!!! - How does the bridge affect sound?

In Geddy Lee's Big Beautiful Book of Bass, he talks about how he just installed a Badass II on all his basses in part to fix the Ric's intonation issues and later to get the sonic benefits of high mass of the Badass. He says that after he started collecting vintage basses though, he couldn't find any benefit to the higher mass bridge, the ones with lower mass vintage bridges sounded just as good.
 
How does the bridge affect the sound?
i think that some bridge change-ups might actually help some instruments sound/play better, however: on most instruments, most of the time = no difference!
At what point should a new bassist consider upgrading bridges?
maybe never. if it's not broken.....

all of my bridge changes in the last dozen years were done for "looks." i wanted black bridges! that said: i have different bridges on each instrument and i cannot tell the difference in sound or playability. some are handier than others for string changes, string spacing, etc., but they're all competent ($20 - $90).

i'm with the group who says: "a bridge is a bridge." forget the hype! ;)
 
To the original question, there are probably 4 aspects to it - functionality, fit, tone and appearance - and probably in this order of importance. Honestly, I wouldn't change out a bridge unless you were having issues with intonation or structural stability (aka functionality). Several years ago, I had a Ric and the original bridge gave me some trouble with intonation and tail lift. I chose to replace it with a Hipshot drop in replacement bridge (no need to drill new holes - aka no problems with fit), which fixed the functionality issues. I did choose the heavier brass version of the Hipshot bridge, thinking that the higher mass bridge would give me something extra in terms of tone, but I couldn't really hear any differences. To some the new bridge looked cool, to others, it didn't look right because it wasn't the original bridge. I didn't care because everything worked and fit correctly and sounded fine.

Today, I play a Lakland, and the bridge has no structural, fit or tonal issues. There are some people who don't care for how a Lakland bridge looks, but for me it's fine.
 
Everything effects tone but how and how much each piece contributes depends on the individual instrument and whether the user can notice any changes.

I notice less tonal effect from different bridges than I do from changing strings, necks, or pickups.

I'm currently working on an instrument and using the heaviest bridge I've ever found but only for the improved balance it will provide, not for tone.

Affects!
 
I've replaced most of my bridges with either a BadAss (now defunct) Hipshot Kickass, Gotoh or a Fender High mass. I like the increased sustain, clarity and adjustability. I put my first BadAss on in 1976 and have been a High Mass believer ever since. Of course if I'm going for the old school "organic" deadish sound i leave the stock bridge on. It all depends on what you're looking for.

I have Gotoh 201s on a couple of basses. No effect on the tone but the saddles don't wander as much. A BadAss is even better in this regard but often needs a route and Imperial Allen keys.
 
I change bridges on basses to remove a high mass bridge if one had been previously installed. IMO, the Fender threaded bent plate is all one would need. It’s light, it’s adjustable, and you can dial in the desired string spacing on the fly.

Maybe it’s just me, but a high mass sounds more sterile. It could all be in my head, but I guess I am just not a fan of the weight or the look as well.

20 dollar bent plate and I am happy.
 
I see some very thin, flimsy looking bridges and some that look like they weight a ton. How does the bridge affect the sound?

It doesn't, provided it works properly.

At what point should a new bassist consider upgrading bridges?

Provided it works properly, adjusts to your liking, and satisfies your aesthetic preferences, never.

There are innumerable better uses of your time & money that will yield far better - and real - results in your tone and playing.
 
I personally don’t hear a tonal benifit from swapping to a meaty bridge. It doesn’t mean there isn’t one. Hell, if anyone hears a benifit from a bridge swap I am all for it. Swap away and find that tone in your head!
 
Compared to a old school original fender type bridge. You will get more sustain and better tone and a somewhat more modern sound with a high mass bridge but as others have said if you want the thud old school thing stay with what you have. But other things do more to chnge the sound. Woods. Pickups. String through the body. Neck through vs bolt on. Strings.
I have a 1970 P bass with an original bad ass brass bridge and it definitely has more sustain.
The hipshot kickass is a very good 4 or 5 string bridge but they do not make a 6 string version yet it seems.