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Nice Trebly Pickup

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sir.edjong

May 15, 2010
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Hello, this my one of my early post.
I'd like to add another pickup to my hofner violin bass, so there will be 3 pickup. My dad won't let me buy new bass, even though i've saved enough money.
"One is enough." he said.
So, i'll make it up one at my hofner.
Of course i have to dig a hole in the middle of the body, to put the pickup. But i think it worths the tone and the look. Every guitar with more than 2 pickup looks killer to me.
The pickup i want to get is a bass humbucker, fit the narrow strings in my hofner, and sounds trebly, outfront, like Entwistle, Geddy Lee, or Chris Squire thing. I think it'll suits my d'addario prosteel strings.
So, my question is, what is the pickup that fit my bill? I'm not looking for expensive or rare pickup, the thing from emg, dimarzio, or duncan is okay to me. All that matter is the bright tone. The stock pickup is already awesome at warm and bassy thing. And, do i have to make another output jack and another (i'm not really a technical guy) control panel, or i just connect it to the old one?

I'm really appreciated of any help, or replies. Sorry if my english is bad. Hehehe.:bassist::bassist:
 
#2
Youd actually be better off in my opinion by adding a nice 2 band active eq. The result is it will allow you to boost the treble (and select the treble center freq for doing that if you pick a preamp with that ability) as well as to cut bass output some when desired. Also it keep you from haveing to cut a route for the new pup. The sounds your after can, if the stock pups have plenty of crunch and growl available, be had to an extent equal to or better then adding another pup. Via a preamp. Std stacked two band eq's replace the instruments passive tone control. So no new holes need be made. Unless you want to be able to switch the bass between active and passive modes for the sound tweak that alone gives. Preamps convert the signal to HiZ which imparts a tad more bass articualtion and a little bit extended upper treble.

Picking a preamp that gives a 6Khz or within 5.5 to 6.5 khz for treble control is very useful for those types of sounds along with the elusive piano tone some talk about. Of course it also helps to roll your pup blend toward the bridge pup some when wanting that entwistle/squire type vibe. And very articulate, crunchy,growly pups as well. Just a bright trebly pup wont do it. Cause smooth sounding rather then crunchy/growly wont get it. Anyway such 2band preamps start at around $59 for very nice ones. My faves the basslines blackout 2band one. EMG would be my 2nd pick. And my pick if yoiu wanted 3 band that also had selectable mid center freq or sweepable mids. Which could also be useful for the tone your after in some cases. You will also need a heavy overdrive effect with your processor or a pedal for that. JE & CS didnt play clean, they used overdrive as basic part of their sound.
 
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sir.edjong said:
...sounds trebly, outfront, like Entwistle, Geddy Lee, or Chris Squire thing.
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sorry, but you just have the wrong bass for that sound.

if you add a pickup, you'll just have the wrong bass but now with a hole in it so you can't sell it and buy the right bass.

you need to sell it (without cutting it up) and get a fender-style full size bass.
 
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Walter and Capt do make a good point. Lol. Hacking it up would be a disaster. With maple body and top, and those type pups, there should be plenty of treble available from the bridge pup. Dont know why op would need more treble in its voice, unless the stock pups are just muddy. Though preamps with their HZ shift can add a nice little bit of extended treble to the voice.

Perhaps dad would let him trade it toward better one for the kid. Then someone else gets a hofner bass for used price, kid gets new better bass for him. And everyone wins including the traded in bass which gets nice new home. Lol.
 
#8
I'll voice what other people have said. Try a preamp before routing a new pickup in ((unless the 3 pickup look is really important to you)). That being said, it is your bass and you can do whatever you want to it, regardless of who made it. Despite the vibe you might be getting from these people. Your bass, your money, your decision.
I applaud you for playing a hofner without the intention of copying a certain someone's tone. I think a seymour duncan quarter pounder P pickup in the middle position would generate some good, aggressive trebly tone and look awesome as well. I would personally then slap an abundance of stickers on there, take some pictures, and post them here to ruffle these peoples feathers.

Rock on
:bassist:
 
#9
thank you for all the reply, it really means to me.
so dad will let you hack up a perfectly good hofner but wont let you buy a new bass?? makes no sence to me.
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This.

Don't destroy a beautiful Hofner.
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Walter and Capt do make a good point. Lol. Hacking it up would be a disaster. With maple body and top, and those type pups, there should be plenty of treble available from the bridge pup. Dont know why op would need more treble in its voice, unless the stock pups are just muddy. Though preamps with their HZ shift can add a nice little bit of extended treble to the voice.

Perhaps dad would let him trade it toward better one for the kid. Then someone else gets a hofner bass for used price, kid gets new better bass for him. And everyone wins including the traded in bass which gets nice new home. Lol.
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I'm sorry i haven't said this before, but my hofner is not the germany made, mccartney like, mine is a hofner icon, budget version, bad sunburst, cheap knob, only $185, or 2 million in indonesian rupiah. Nobody's father would buy his son a $2000 priced bass, right? Except he is a king of england. And, i haven't told him about my plan. Hehehe. And yes, the stock pickup is quite muddy, the bridge pickup only gives a little treble.

sorry, but you just have the wrong bass for that sound.

if you add a pickup, you'll just have the wrong bass but now with a hole in it so you can't sell it and buy the right bass.

you need to sell it (without cutting it up) and get a fender-style full size bass.
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i know, i know. But my hands are too small, and i couldnt stand of any heavy weight bass, j bass for example. Actually, i have use my hofner with russian big muff and boss odb, it really rock the house. My friend even't don't believe that it is hollow body.
Use the money to buy an EQ pedal or some other form of pedal to change the tone. Unless you hire a luthier to do this work, you'll likely ruin the bass.
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I'd be as stupid as monkey if i don't bring it to a luthier, lol.
I'll voice what other people have said. Try a preamp before routing a new pickup in ((unless the 3 pickup look is really important to you)). That being said, it is your bass and you can do whatever you want to it, regardless of who made it. Despite the vibe you might be getting from these people. Your bass, your money, your decision.
I applaud you for playing a hofner without the intention of copying a certain someone's tone. I think a seymour duncan quarter pounder P pickup in the middle position would generate some good, aggressive trebly tone and look awesome as well. I would personally then slap an abundance of stickers on there, take some pictures, and post them here to ruffle these peoples feathers.

Rock on
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Thank's a lot. Yeah, i'm really annoyed when i'm playing live, people will start shouting.
"Wow, Paul McCartney!!"
Gee, and it even get worst because i am a left hander.
So i choose to not get a flatwound, not using pick, overdrive the amp. I even slap. Did paul slap?
Hahaha, but i still like him. I'm a beatlemania too.
 
#12
Do you have flats or round wounds on it? Round wounds would get you closer, and maybe some decent twang. I'm guessing you have flats, since that's what it comes with.

But I agree it's not exactly the right bass for that tone.
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I'm sorry, but you have to look back to my previous post. It's not the germany one. It's cheap. The stock string is a cheap roundwound. So i have replaced it with a quite bright d'addario nickel wound.
Still, bassy all the way.
 
#13
trade it in for a fender aerodyne j bass... its very light and j basses have that trebaly tone your going for right? When I think j bass I think more trebaly and clean. When I think p bass its growly and bassy mids. I also remember a Yamaha p/j model a few years back that was extremely light like 4 to 5 pounds. and it lit up when you plugged it in, maybe a Yamaha fanatic will chime in and tell you what model im talking about.


Or another idea the pickups look to be the size of rickenbacker pickups so if you were to get some rick pickups. pop those in there and you will definatly have a more trebaly punchy tone... pickofthericks.com sells pickups and all the hardware.
 
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trade it in for a fender aerodyne j bass... its very light and j basses have that trebaly tone your going for right? When I think j bass I think more trebaly and clean. When I think p bass its growly and bassy mids. I also remember a Yamaha p/j model a few years back that was extremely light like 4 to 5 pounds. and it lit up when you plugged it in, maybe a Yamaha fanatic will chime in and tell you what model im talking about.


Or another idea the pickups look to be the size of rickenbacker pickups so if you were to get some rick pickups. pop those in there and you will definatly have a more trebaly punchy tone... pickofthericks.com sells pickups and all the hardware.
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thank you, but i do not really want to purchase another bass. rick pups might be great, but i don't have any visa or paypal. And i live in indonesia. What about the seymour duncan one? Is it good?
 

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