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No PA support-whaddaya use for cab(S)?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by emblymouse, Dec 24, 2012.

  1. emblymouse

    emblymouse Supporting Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    Lakland Artist Endorser
    Small bar type gigs 500<. Rock.

    Love my Bag End 1XS12+1XS15 stack. Nice tone and I know I can be heard ok, but I'm thinking about the low end in the back of the room.

    What works for you?
  2. Floyd Eye

    Floyd Eye Banned

    Feb 21, 2010
    St. Louis
    Ampeg 810cl
  3. smeet

    smeet Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 27, 2006
    Woodland Hills, CA
    fEARful 15/6/1. But I still want to build a 15 sub to REALLY fill a room.
  4. 2x Schroeder 15+L cabs (got 'em from an amazing player & super sweetheart of a TB brother in Madison!)

    Powered ably by GB Streamliner 6.0 (got it from another, equally talented and nice TB brother in Madison!)

    Now if I could just stop playing bass like such a guitar player...
  5. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
    I want to be Tesla (tinkerer at Dayton Amp Co)
    In about two weeks I'll be using either my Big E 2 x 6's or a W bin Kustom 118B loaded with a Faital 18FH500 and an Alpha 6 CBMRA from 800 Hz up.
  6. fEARful 1212/6/1 does it for me...
  7. Stone Soup

    Stone Soup

    Dec 3, 2012
    I don't do clubs with over a hundred patrons, without PA support. Ever heard the term "stupid loud"? There's a reason it's called that. ;)
  8. modulusman

    modulusman Banned

    Jan 18, 2004
    I don't consider a 500 capacity bar small.:confused: Always have PA but when I want to look cool I use my Genz Benz Uber stack.:D
  9. ::::BASSIST::::

    ::::BASSIST:::: Progress Not Perfection.

    Sep 2, 2004
    Vancouver, BC Canada
    fEARful 15/6

    Really fills out the sound & takes eq well.

    love it!
  10. Rebop


    Jul 9, 2008
    La Honda, CA
    Old Genz Benz 4x10xb. Good for almost any venue.
  11. bassman10096


    Jul 30, 2004
    Old school: Mesa Powerhouse 410 on top of a PH 115. Power to spare.
  12. Bergantino NV412 usually. Solid solid & tight lows.
  13. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    4-500 peeps needs real PA, period.

    trying to blast low end from stage just wrecks the mix for everybody else in the band and still doesn't make it to the back.

    your bass rig never needs to be any louder than the acoustic drums are.
  14. Tim1


    Sep 9, 2005
    New Zealand
    Bergantino NV215 covers most eventualities for me, with or without PA support. If there is no FOH support I suppose I would just turn it up as necessary, but to be honest I can't imagine doing 100+ without at least a touch going through the subs.
  15. G-K NEO412, not a problem :D
  16. Yeah, 50 is a small bar, typo or psycho?
  17. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Grand Rapids Michigan
    fEARful 1515/66/1

    Better to have to much, than not enough.
  18. meatwad


    Apr 9, 2008
    Smallville, USA
    big +1
  19. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I think sometimes we grossly overestimate how much we need as bass players. A 500 seat joint, while not small, is also not big. And making it to the back of the room with a 112 and a 115 and a decently powered amp should be fairly easy in all but the most ear-splitting of cases. And when you're doing stage volume gigs, the idea should be the same as when you do a full PA gig...make the music sound balanced. How much do you need for that? I think Walter's advice about using the acoustic drums as a guide is sound.
  20. You and me can play 500 people with a little rig but this is TB dude.