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"No, you may not use my amp."

When it comes to my basses, I have lent them in the past and gotten them back still in the same condition. I have a mate now who loves using my Rockbass streamer because of it's tone, and I know he will always take good care of my instruments. So when a mate needs to borrow a bass, I rarely say no unless I need it that same night. Always lend them out in a hard case too.

Amps is a whole different story (and a good one at that too). About 5 years ago we had a gig and the promoter informed us that we were only required to bring head units and instruments as the cabs were house gear. At first, I liked the idea of it - less gear to load/unload and quick set change-overs. Then I get there and find out that the headlining band's bassist didn't bring his amp as he thought it would be all house gear and after watching us play, he said 'I'm gunna use your amp for our set.' Never asked me if he could use it, just came and told me that he was using it. If you looked up intimidating in the dictionary, you would find this guy's picture. 6'5 and about 300lb. Me, being all of about 5'10/180lb and the non-confrontational type, said 'yeah mate, no worries'. Big mistake.

What I didn't notice during their sound check (probably because we had just finished our set and I was having a cigaretter) was that he had cranked pretty much every dial up to full on the head (Warwick Pro-fet 5.1). During their third song, the head unit actually started to smoke and died - totally fried. They finished their song and he unhooked it, said 'what the f*** is wrong with this piece of s***?' and then threw the amp at me, the amp bouncing twice.

After the show, I was not exactly happy that my 12 month old head was seemingly fried and blown. Then, HE came up to me and had a go at me, saying that my crappy equipment made their gig terrible . I asked him if he thought about how I felt since my virtually brand new head unit was now fried. He proceeded to inform me that wasn't an issue and I should be apologizing for lending him crappy equipment and demanded that I shout him drinks for the rest of the night. Not impressed with his actions, I turned around with my amp in hand, flipped him off and told him to go and fornicate himself.

Without warning, he had come up behind me and king hit me in the back of my head, causing me to drop the amp. I turned around and hit him with the hardest over-hand right punch I think I have ever thrown at somebody and caught him right on the chin. I remember seeing his eyes roll into the back of his head and he fell over, completely unconscious. The bouncers then came running out to check on him and protect me, concerned that he would want to kill me when he woke back up from his induced slumber. I gotta admit, the $100 that it cost me to fix the power supply on the amp was well worth the feeling of knocking out that big idiot. The next time I walked into a bar and he was there, he left immediately :D
Now, I don't lend my amps to ANYBODY. You left it at home? Your problem.

Maybe we should put that as a clause in the contract if we lend gear;

'Any damage caused by usage of the lendee may be paid via a KO by the lendor'
Hahaha

Cheers,
Jordan
 
When it comes to my basses, I have lent them in the past and gotten them back still in the same condition. I have a mate now who loves using my Rockbass streamer because of it's tone, and I know he will always take good care of my instruments. So when a mate needs to borrow a bass, I rarely say no unless I need it that same night. Always lend them out in a hard case too.

Amps is a whole different story (and a good one at that too). About 5 years ago we had a gig and the promoter informed us that we were only required to bring head units and instruments as the cabs were house gear. At first, I liked the idea of it - less gear to load/unload and quick set change-overs. Then I get there and find out that the headlining band's bassist didn't bring his amp as he thought it would be all house gear and after watching us play, he said 'I'm gunna use your amp for our set.' Never asked me if he could use it, just came and told me that he was using it. If you looked up intimidating in the dictionary, you would find this guy's picture. 6'5 and about 300lb. Me, being all of about 5'10/180lb and the non-confrontational type, said 'yeah mate, no worries'. Big mistake.

What I didn't notice during their sound check (probably because we had just finished our set and I was having a cigaretter) was that he had cranked pretty much every dial up to full on the head (Warwick Pro-fet 5.1). During their third song, the head unit actually started to smoke and died - totally fried. They finished their song and he unhooked it, said 'what the f*** is wrong with this piece of s***?' and then threw the amp at me, the amp bouncing twice.

After the show, I was not exactly happy that my 12 month old head was seemingly fried and blown. Then, HE came up to me and had a go at me, saying that my crappy equipment made their gig terrible . I asked him if he thought about how I felt since my virtually brand new head unit was now fried. He proceeded to inform me that wasn't an issue and I should be apologizing for lending him crappy equipment and demanded that I shout him drinks for the rest of the night. Not impressed with his actions, I turned around with my amp in hand, flipped him off and told him to go and fornicate himself.

Without warning, he had come up behind me and king hit me in the back of my head, causing me to drop the amp. I turned around and hit him with the hardest over-hand right punch I think I have ever thrown at somebody and caught him right on the chin. I remember seeing his eyes roll into the back of his head and he fell over, completely unconscious. The bouncers then came running out to check on him and protect me, concerned that he would want to kill me when he woke back up from his induced slumber. I gotta admit, the $100 that it cost me to fix the power supply on the amp was well worth the feeling of knocking out that big idiot. The next time I walked into a bar and he was there, he left immediately :D
Now, I don't lend my amps to ANYBODY. You left it at home? Your problem.

Maybe we should put that as a clause in the contract if we lend gear;

'Any damage caused by usage of the lendee may be paid via a KO by the lendor'
Hahaha

Cheers,
Jordan

Love that story man, +10!!
 
The other day I lent my rig to a guy at open mic session, the first time in quite awhile. I only knew him as the percussion guy who loved my bass but he had gone and bought himself a squire jazz and turned out to be not too shabby for a beginner.

I had to turn him up and play with the EQ a bit as his bass was kind of dead. It turned out it was his first time in front of a real bass amp, reminded me of my beginnings.
 
It depends on if i know the band or not. Ill loan gear if i know and trust them. and under the condition that if you mess it up you get the repair bill. I dont really think my stuff is possible to break down at the moment I have never cranked it past like 4 but 4 seems to be the point where the tube pre in the lh500 seems to get really crunchy, My swr 6x10 can handle that just fine too.
 
I also thought I would add my experience. This is also why I don't leave gear at rehearsal spaces either. You would think you could trust your bandmates but sometimes even they can be dbags...

My rig in high school was an Eden Metro 2x10 combo and a 15'' cab. My drummer informed me when I showed up for practice that he let a punk band use my rig. Not sure exactly what happened, or why, but nothing sounded right after that. I think one of the speakers was blown but I didn't have the knowhow to figure it out.
 
I've only ever had to loan an amp once, as that gig was cabs provided and at the time i didnt have a head, just a combo which there was no room for on the "stage" which went fine, i did have the input gain down quite low, and didnt touch the EQ, just put the volume up to where i could hear it.

I've lent out the amp i was using twice, once was for one of my band members friends band as he didnt have an amp (That amp was my guitarists so it was up to him) and the other was my drummers friends band, whose studio we used to record a song in, and i also used their drummers bass (Epi Thunderbird 4 signed by Mani of the Stone Roses) during said recording session. Both times were fine, the occasional clip light but nothing bad, they were both sensible enough also, and didnt touch the EQ.

Liam
 
Common thread, round' here. I will loan my gear to a friend, or someone I know is totally pro and will respect it. I prefer not to, however, and if it is a situation of providing a backline sometimes i'll bring my second string cab or amp so I don't have to worry about it.

I don't like being stuck with someone elses gear, however, unless absolutely necessary. But sometimes we have to be accommodating if the situation dictates it.
 
+1 on Amps not basses for me.
We played a five band show a few weeks back, and there was a bit of gear sharing going on.

One of the big "wins" for me is knowing my equipment. I use a GB Shuttle 6.0 for smaller venues and know every dial on it. I brought a Stingray H and the bassist before me was playing a $3000 + five string Ken Smith.

I told him to feel comfortable tweaking any and every knob as he saw fit. He just plugged in and played.

At the end of the night, I was getting all the compliments on tone!!

It's not always the $$$$ that gets the nod!!

The other thing I have really started to wonder...with all the "new" options in portable bass amplification, I assume that showing up at smaller gigs and seeing a bass player without his amp in a small gig bag over his shoulder will become a thing of thew past as well. I take a Shuttle 6.0 and an SWR Headlite as a back-up to most gigs, and it all fits in one bag over the shoulder.

The monster venues requiring powerful rack mounted gear and multiple 4x10, 6x10, 8x10 cabs...I don't know that I would someone else trying to push my gear to the ragged edge. I feel guilty enough when I do that to my own equipment. :bassist:
 
I am totally against these guys showing up with only a bass and saying hey man you care if I play through your rig? Yea man that's cool I only bought it and thanks for helping me load it in the trailer, unload it here and load it back up, then unload it again at the house. Because this 610 cab and 50 pound head are a lot easier to carry around than a bass.
 
I've never lent my equipment to anyone else, (mainly cos i rely on a marshall MBB 15 for live) but one time at a show they're was a line of 4 bass amps (one for each band) and it was so cramped i couldn't move about enough.
Moral of the story, if it makes it easier, lend.
 
I agree, sharing is cool for twix bars or a cab, but in my experience people are never respectful of other people's property, and lets face it music gear in very expensive.

Tell the bars to invest in a kick ass house system and you'll be happy to show up with your pedal board and Direct box to make the set changes easier!!!!!
 
I played a lot in Europe on the Oldies Circuit where everything except a bass was supplied by the PA company, right down to a tech to tune my bass on one occassion. That was kinda cool. Always top gear too. These were always multi band ( 5 or 6 band ) shows.

Only issue I ever had was one gig in Germany where we showed up to soundcheck and I walked on stage to be confronted with this monster Glockenklang rig.....my heart soared as I plugged in and played, changing settings and loving the sounds. Not playing loud at all mind you. Anyway within a few minutes I was confronted by a very angry native demanding to know ( in German ) why I was using his lovely rig !!. Only then did I notice the usual Ampeg monster lurking behind the drum riser. Anyway, I apologised profusely ( in English ) and explained the situation which was just a complete misunderstanding on my behalf, and completely my fault. ( Although to be fair, he should have moved it off stage and put the Ampeg rig back after his soundcheck, then it would never have happened ) Turned out he was a cool guy and a fan of the band and I got to use his rig for the gig too.

On another gig in Germany, the bassist of a local support band told the PA company not to bring a bass amp as he would rather use his own rig and he'd be happy for me to use it too ( which is a nice sentiment ) However, his "rig" was a Markbass 2x10 combo, a nice little amp, but way uderpowered and so wrong for the gig ( 3,000 drunken Germans in a huge beer hall, stage was like a soccer pitch ) When I could hear it, it was just fuzzy, trebley noise........sounded ok out front thankfully.

Stewart
 

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