I’m looking to rent/borrow a Noble for a session in Muscle Shoals in late December. Does anyone happen to know of anyone or a service that would be interested in helping out?
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Noble Rental
- Thread starter fraggle
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Muscle Shoals Sound Studio? Fame Studios? If so, why bother renting a Noble when both of those places have plenty of choice options for your signal path included in their available gear?
Fame; recording engineer said his favorite option is the noble and I’m trying to make as good of a first impression that I can in hopes of getting called to come back. They do have the vintage Fet B15 duo and a countryman DI available. I’m sure the sounds available are fantastic, but again, I’m hoping to impress.
I can understand your perspective. As an engineer myself, I certainly have preferences but given the relative ease of capturing DI bass I would never base my opinion of a session player on what type of DI or preamp they brought to the session. Be prompt, know the material, have a well setup and good sounding bass that's appropriate for the session, be easy to work with, be open to criticism, suggestions and feedback, be a good hang in the control room, and don't overstay your welcome when you're all done with your parts. Do all of that and any competent engineer will still have a good impression of you even if you show up with a scratched up Behringer DI.
That said; I suspect the Noble is such a specific piece of gear that you'll not have any luck renting one from a shop. If some TB'er that's near the studio happens to have one you might be able to get them to let you borrow it. Short of that I'm guessing your best bet is to just buy one. That will probably neutralize any earnings you're making from the session.
That said; I suspect the Noble is such a specific piece of gear that you'll not have any luck renting one from a shop. If some TB'er that's near the studio happens to have one you might be able to get them to let you borrow it. Short of that I'm guessing your best bet is to just buy one. That will probably neutralize any earnings you're making from the session.
Thanks so much for your input! I’ve already talked with Jack from Noble and he suggested I ask on here as he knew of a couple of units in the area. Unfortunately I scored the session outside the time window to order a new one, but I’ll keep my eyes peeled for an available one that isn’t being price gouged. Again, it isn’t deal breaker if I can’t find one, but I’d like to put my best foot forward. I’m new to studio work, but my ultimate end goal is to become a competent player with a good enough home setup that people will call me to add bass or rhythm guitar tracks to their projects.
As someone who worked professionally as both a recording engineer and a session bassist for several decades, I must admit: In all that time I rarely did a session as a player where I was encouraged to provide my own DI -- I think once or twice I mentioned "the DI output of this preamp sounds pretty good" when the house DI was some crappy passive ProCo or Whirlwind thing, and the engineer took a feed from it (no idea whether that actually got used though) and I absolutely never did as session as an engineer where the musician brought their own DI. Is that really a thing these days?
One in the classifieds right now. You could grab it, use it for the session, then flip it and easily get your money back.
You handle the notes-
Let the pros handle the rest.
Let the pros handle the rest.
+1 to this suggestion - grab it! Comes with a flight case, price is reasonable relative to others that have recently come up for sale.
Can we get back to the OP's request instead of telling him he's wrong? It's ok to disagree, but the thread is going away from the original topic. I'm sure there's a 1000 different experiences out there -- and all valid. The OP's experience is that he's looking for a noble to make a good impression. He may very well figure out it's overkill, but in all fairness, you only get once for first impressions.
So.... does anyone have a lead for @fraggle ?
So.... does anyone have a lead for @fraggle ?
You want to impress? I’d argue that time spent working on your chops will be far more impressive than showing up with a cool piece of gear. As an engineer, I’m far more impressed when someone comes in with a Squier and can flat out play than I am with someone with a Sadowsky and a shaky groove.
U2 got a major label deal, and in the studio, the engineer suggested they try a different guitar. Edge didn’t know how to respond - the band got that deal, and he only had one electric guitar.
It ain’t about the gear.
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I agree with the others who suggest buying the used one in the classifieds for the session and selling it afterwards if you don't want to keep it. Trust me, you won't have any trouble selling it...the one mentioned in the classifieds with the pelican case will likely be gone by this time next week.
I think there was a lead given. One in the classifieds.
@RichSnyder Yes there was. I liked that comment. I was trying to steer the thread back to it's original path rather than a bunch of complaining and stating that OP needs to practice more. I'm making no assumptions, OP may be very technically proficient already.
I was just trying to redirect from condescending back to helpful. I dont have a lead, but I'd rather this thread stay on point, so that if there is a person with a Noble unit near him he can rent it.
I was just trying to redirect from condescending back to helpful. I dont have a lead, but I'd rather this thread stay on point, so that if there is a person with a Noble unit near him he can rent it.
Ummm, you're kinda doing what you saying you don't want to happen. I have a Noble, but probably like most on here, I'm not going to loan it to someone that I don't know. There is a solution out there that should be within budget since OP was investigating a new Noble with the Rush option.
Enlighten me. I dont see this. How am I being condescending and recommending more practice?
If you're not willing to loan it, cool. I dont blame you. That's also your choice. I just dont see a point in turning this thread into "you should practice more" when we don't know OP's abilities.
It would be perhaps helpful to recommend easier to get DI's that will get you 90% to a noble's sound perhaps. I've seen videos where the Radial JDI got fairly close to noble without the price. But he's not asking for DI recommendations, so I didn't say that.
@RichSnyder it's pretty simple. Look at it from a business perspective. He wants to use the right tools for a job to make sure he gets more jobs. The customer (sound engineer where he's going) likes Noble. Being able to use the tools well is an implied task, and not the center of the conversation.
Make customers happy generally means you get more business.
Make customers happy generally means you get more business.
Do you have any other hall monitoring you need to do?
Turns out I do. I just found an ad hominem attack. This above comment is rude and condescending.
Back to the actual issue at hand.......
OP needs a good DI. Noble is preferred by the customer. Anyone have any suggestions other than above on how he can get one? or close to the same sound as one?
