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Noob here! Squire, Geddy, etc

I actually play guitar myself, and find both 'La Villa' and 'YYZ' easier on it, than playing them on the bass... the part in 'La Villa' I've always had the hardest time with is the '64th noted, 1000 bpm' bass fill... I'll have it down better, before our next get together, for sure.

'YYZ' is an exercise, and should be exorcised from my routine, but it gives me plenty of headroom to work toward.
Oh yeah.. THAT fill... freakin RAD, but its brutal! Im afraid Id just throw in something that SOUNDED hard, but was much easier. :laugh:
 
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Welcome to TB, Riffed. If you love the tone (and similar playing) of Squire, check out Dave Meros in Spock's Beard. Their material to their fifth cd (named V) had Dave playing a Rick and generally using a pick so he had Chris Squire's sound in those days.
My first Rush concert was 'Tour of the Hemispheres'. Sadly, we hadn't been exposed to that album so I didn't know how good it was until after the album was in the house. My brother and I did have Farewell to Kings so we were waiting with baited breath for Xanadu!
WOW, to have seen Rush on THAT tour would have... well lets just say, if I had a time machine, that would be one of the first stops I make! ..right after the some racetrack betting.
Yeah, my friend who introduced me to Hemispheres had it & Permanant Waves. During my first listen, I was like "Woa dude, thats a chick singing to some kinda odd, crazy rock?!" The next few days I sat down with headphones & the album cover, reading the lyrics & after my 3rd listen, I was like.... "hollllyyyyy poopie.... why doesnt EVERYONE know about this..." and we went straight out to buy every album theyd done! :thumbsup:
 
The bass can make or break a song. It adds power and a sense of urgency that not only is heard by the audience but deeply felt.

It’s contribution should never be underestimated.
See, people like YOU, spoil music with bass that doesnt just sit under the guitar, barely supporting! :laugh:

No really, what your saying IS a point sooooo overlooked by guitarists who might just WANT it to support beneath, & even by plenty of bass players I guess. Ive heard songs that might be fine or just passing filler, but for a FANTASTIC bass line, that makes you just FEEL it. And many times it can be so perfectly fitting, so well-played, & so song-serving that its hard to discern exactly how outstanding a track it is!
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As a long time prog Yes / ELP etc fan and bassist my first real bass was a 72 Burgundyglo Ric 4001.

First thing I did was to install Rotosound Swing Bass 66 round wound strings and play exclusively with a pick I believe Geddy mostly used finger style

My style now varies as needed

I may get slammed hard for this but before you invest in more expensive basses ; it is my experience that Rotosound 66 rounds will give essentially Any bass THAT prog tone especially when played with a pick and close to bridge with treble tones boosted on bass/ amp

You can invest in an inexpensive bass for now and install round wound strings to do your recording project and later invest in a more expensive bass if you like

I own less expensive basses as well as more expensive ones. String choice is paramount in tone chain next to head heart hands

THAT prog tone is short lived and requires frequent string changes or you can clean strings after each use with rubbing alcohol and soft lint free cloth to extend

Frankly only hard core progger audience will even notice or care in my experience

Audiences want to be entertained by us not educated by us and may not ever notice your overall tone nuances

Good luck. Welcome Aboard and keep us posted
Interesting... Im almost sure I havent used Rotos. I have ErnieBalls on my Fender PJ, & try to keep them clean & bright. But Ill try some Rotos!

The thing is, sure.. most audiences might not care or notice, but YOUR sound being how YOU dig it, makes YOU play better, & that contributes to the audiences experience, whether they know it or not.
 
Welcome!! Lotsa gems here!! I'll just leave this here for you (worth watching the whole thing!!).

Thnks man! Wow... shes like a one man entertainment machine! :bassist:


Welcome to TB.

As you rightfully appreciate these prog rock bass masters, they often play "linear bass". I bring this up because it is important to incorporate the funk in your playing.

Here's a finger funk bass jam I keep coming back to for inspiration. There is a wealth of ideas in this dude's playing.

Yeah man, I GREATLY appreciate funk bass & the likes. And This guy you posted, is really cool! Although I have such a hard time making my mind & hands execute it! I can even finger pick to a degree, but its frustrating to have certain things just evade you!
...Thing is, ya know, I only DABBLED with bass before, & then while working on this album, Im thinking of several guys that are pretty great players, & either couldnt get in touch with them or couldnt get them pulled away from their problems. So I whipped down some temp ideas on my own, & then finally decided I was better served just buckling down & working my ass off to achieve the bass tracks myself. They wont be great, I feel like your term LINEAR is indeed accurate for what I tend to be able to do. I prefer more nuance, but Im still behind that curve!
 
Interesting... Im almost sure I havent used Rotos. I have ErnieBalls on my Fender PJ, & try to keep them clean & bright. But Ill try some Rotos!

The thing is, sure.. most audiences might not care or notice, but YOUR sound being how YOU dig it, makes YOU play better, & that contributes to the audiences experience, whether they know it or not.

Can’t argue with Squire Entwistle or Pastorious Rotosound Swing Bass 66Rounds

Frankly most any rounds will suffice but try Rotosound
 
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Thnks man! Wow... shes like a one man entertainment machine! :bassist:


Yeah man, I GREATLY appreciate funk bass & the likes. And This guy you posted, is really cool! Although I have such a hard time making my mind & hands execute it! I can even finger pick to a degree, but its frustrating to have certain things just evade you!
...Thing is, ya know, I only DABBLED with bass before, & then while working on this album, Im thinking of several guys that are pretty great players, & either couldnt get in touch with them or couldnt get them pulled away from their problems. So I whipped down some temp ideas on my own, & then finally decided I was better served just buckling down & working my ass off to achieve the bass tracks myself. They wont be great, I feel like your term LINEAR is indeed accurate for what I tend to be able to do. I prefer more nuance, but Im still behind that curve!

I hear you about the learning curve associated with mastering right hand finger bass technique when you're primarily a guitarist. But all is not lost. There are a few practitioners of pick funk bass. This dude, Bobby Vega is something special. Note the heavy use of palm muting and ghost notes (when the left hand does not fully push down on the string, thus giving you a "clunk" sound instead of a note when the string is plucked or picked).



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See, people like YOU, spoil music with bass that doesnt just sit under the guitar, barely supporting! :laugh:

No really, what your saying IS a point sooooo overlooked by guitarists who might just WANT it to support beneath, & even by plenty of bass players I guess. Ive heard songs that might be fine or just passing filler, but for a FANTASTIC bass line, that makes you just FEEL it. And many times it can be so perfectly fitting, so well-played, & so song-serving that its hard to discern exactly how outstanding a track it is!
:smug:

Good songs are crafted by bass players that can play other instruments.
 
I hear you about the learning curve associated with mastering right hand finger bass technique when you're primarily a guitarist. But all is not lost. There are a few practitioners of pick funk bass. This dude, Bobby Vega is something special. Note the heavy use of palm muting and ghost notes (when the left hand does not fully push down on the string, thus giving you a "clunk" sound instead of a note when the string is plucked or picked).



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Wow, thats KILLER! Ive seen dudes like that, that were amazing pick players, and although thought is that I personally would rather excel at finger if I were to go to that level; the truth is, I know each technique has its own tone & nuance that can be preferred for whatever style or reason.
And if I COULD nail that, heck, Ive got ZERO problem using a pick! Thats fricken amazing!
 
LOL, say what? Are they made of barbed-wire?
I saw both Rotosound 66 Stainless & Nickel.. Which is the preferred?
I've played nothing but Rotos on my Ricks for the last 26 years. I have permanent grooves on my left hand fingers...lol! I'm switching one of my Ricks to flats (Rotos again), so that may help.
As to Nickel or Stainless, here's a Bass Strings 101 Invalid Link Removed from Bass Strings Online.