Not A Good Fit...

[ArtechnikA]

Responded to a local CL post today for projects in my wheelhouse. (Same BL, same rhythm section.) Got back a document of requirements. Here's but a couple of lines from a full page:

No full-time players. To [sic] much hustle*. PT players are easiest and the best.
...
No 6-10 string bass. 4 is it.

Many want to play in these projects. Sorry if it sounds harsh up front , but we been through all kinds of drama and will not tolerate high school BS. We have vocalists/guitar player/ piano ... .

They have keys - no word on whether they're allowed 88 keys even though the repertoire arguably requires 73 at most...

There are other bits about politics - only one viewpoint is tolerated. Pretty sure I can't play in a band where you can't leave politics at the door and just play music. I don't even care if the other players are "like-minded" -- if I want politics (rarely...) I'll go hang out on FaceBook. Band time is for music (IMO).

So the BL has had issues with players' inability to act like professionals - while excluding professionals. Not a good fit for me...
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* Cut-and-paste from the document. I looked at it twice to make sure. As this makes no sense, I'm wondering if the desired word was 'hassle.'

 

[getbent]

Yeah, life's too short for that noise. keep it moving

 

[DirtDog]

Only thing that would be worse is if the BL made you sit through a mandatory PowerPoint presentation.

Ye gads!

 

[Oddly]

@ArtechnikA , I'm assuming you decided not to pursue this.
In which case, bullet dodged.
Well done.

 

[ArtechnikA]

@ArtechnikA , I'm assuming you decided not to pursue this.

I expect the BL is right and they will have no trouble filling the positions; it'll be a good fit for someone.
And I absolutely agree with the 'his band, his rules' principle, so no issue there.

 

[gln1955]

Many want to play in these projects.

Yet, here he is recruiting on CL.

I agree, a political litmus test leaves me out, I don't care where they stand.

 

[mrcbass]

At least it's all right up front - you don't need to wait a month for the undesirable details to hit you.

 

[DirtDog]

Yet, here he is recruiting on CL.

I agree, a political litmus test leaves me out, I don't care where they stand.

Agreed. Well...kinda. The litmus test for me would be: how much time does band spend talking about politics and/or religion. I’m pretty tolerant when it comes to different views but I don’t need/want that creeping into the band scenario.

 

[glocke1]

Responded to a local CL post today for projects in my wheelhouse. (Same BL, same rhythm section.) Got back a document of requirements. Here's but a couple of lines from a full page:

No full-time players. To [sic] much hustle*. PT players are easiest and the best.
...
No 6-10 string bass. 4 is it.

Many want to play in these projects. Sorry if it sounds harsh up front , but we been through all kinds of drama and will not tolerate high school BS. We have vocalists/guitar player/ piano ... .

They have keys - no word on whether they're allowed 88 keys even though the repertoire arguably requires 73 at most...

There are other bits about politics - only one viewpoint is tolerated. Pretty sure I can't play in a band where you can't leave politics at the door and just play music. I don't even care if the other players are "like-minded" -- if I want politics (rarely...) I'll go hang out on FaceBook. Band time is for music (IMO).

So the BL has had issues with players' inability to act like professionals - while excluding professionals. Not a good fit for me...
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* Cut-and-paste from the document. I looked at it twice to make sure. As this makes no sense, I'm wondering if the desired word was 'hassle.'

Well, to be fair nothing wrong with stating exactly what you want and he's right about the full time players..I work with a couple of people like that and it's a hassle trying to work around their schedule.

The politics thing is messed up.

 

[bassbully]

I learned a long time ago not to try to push a round peg into a square hole. If it feels good is usually is good and trust your gut.
I got out of a bad tryout last year when I didn’t trust my gut. It was bad and thankfully I just gave out the vibe this is not going to work, packed up and left.

 

[Shalto]

They don't like full time pros but they also don't like high school kids. One of the bowls of porridge was too hot, one was too cold, but the one in the middle was juuust..... right

 

[jamro217]

Was this in the right section of the classifieds? Shouldn't it have been under "Minions wanted"?

 

[micguy]

So, he's closed minded. You want to to work with someone like that? No?

This is good - he saved you time and aggravation.

i work with a lot of people in my music gigs. I don't run into stuff like this - there are plenty of reasonably normal, functioning folks out there.

Next.

 

[LBS-bass]

Politics are a weird thing. I have my views, and I don't care what yours are, but I do very much care if yours are different from mine AND you can't stop yakking about it and insulting me all the while during rehearsals or breaks.

This has happened to me on two occasions with bands I was about to join, so yes, unfortunately I do like to see some indication of where people stand these days. Like I said, I don't care on a personal level, but it seems in this day and age people can't manage to keep their mouths shut about politics and just play music.

That said, there was one guy I had a weekly jam with who was on the opposite end of things, and we got along great. No one ever talked about politics, so it was fine. But you don't know if you'll get lucky that way. It's sad that it's come to the point where people feel they have to ask, but there's probably a good reason they do.

 

[QORC]

Yup, I don't want politics mixed up in my band situation - at rehearsal or gigs - and anyone that makes that some sort of litmus test? These are the bloviating douchebags always best left behind.

Heck I don't even want to HEAR bands that spout politics. Some years back, I went to see, for the first time, a very popular band in the area. Yes, there were very very good. but the LS was making little political messages in between songs. What a turn-off. Wife and I said we will never go see this band again and we never have.