NPD: Zoom MS-70CDR+

[Zoot H Rollo]

I was ready to go Strymon, Eventide, Neunaber, or TC for modulation/delay/reverb, but none of them gave me the simple multi-slot utility box I wanted.

The MS-70CDR+ does.

6 FX slots, 24-bit / 128x oversampling A/D/A, 32-bit floating-point internal processing, quiet noise floor, compact size, and the iPad editor works.

Current mono recipe:

Peterson Strobostomp Mini → ToneX ONE → Zoom MS-70CDR+ → Broughton Studio Boost Mini

Strobostomp provides the buffered 5 megohm front end.

ToneX handles Noble / B-15 / Aguilar.

Zoom handles post-amp mono movement and space.

Broughton gives the final push.

Studio mono out: RME Babyface Pro Input 3

Live mono out: QSC CP12 - short TS 1/4" input A

Not on a board yet.

Emotional support cables only.

 

[KevInDaBassment]

LOVE mine, it's at the beginning of my signal chain. The Noise Gate and Compressor are always-on for me, but I was surprised how great the Chorus effects are compared to the B3n. I've considered putting another at the end for Delay and some of the other effects.

Just having Tuner + [insert effect name] in one pedal puts you ahead, but that still gives you 5 more FX slots to tweak lol. Excellent pedal, super glad I got one.

 

[Zoot H Rollo]

LOVE mine, it's at the beginning of my signal chain. The Noise Gate and Compressor are always-on for me, but I was surprised how great the Chorus effects are compared to the B3n. I've considered putting another at the end for Delay and some of the other effects.

Just having Tuner + [insert effect name] in one pedal puts you ahead, but that still gives you 5 more FX slots to tweak lol. Excellent pedal, super glad I got one.

Nice use case, thanks for sharing.

Additionally, I was shocked with how quiet this pedal is.

I had noise issues with other, older Zoom pedals. But not this puppy.

One thing that helped my setup: I use a Topping HS02 USB isolator inline on the USB cable to my PC. That eliminates USB power/ground noise when I’m connected for editing.

With clean power and the USB isolated, the MS-70CDR+ has been dead quiet.

 

[bassbrad]

I have both an original CDR as well as a CDR+ that I use quite a bit and have to say have never been let down with the selection or quality of sound. The CDR+ is in my analog keyboard synth setup in the effects loop of the mixer. I have an iPad air 2 that is used for editing and creating sounds, I don't find it as easy as ToneLib but it works.

The CDR is in a loop for my interface as well as a Source Audio Artifakt & ART Multiverb LT used as a plug in effects on all sorts of signals. I have a rack of "classic" vintage effects but rarely ever use them as the CDR with Tone Lib Zoom is so convenient for sound design and honestly sounds just as good in most cases.

 

[BassmanNate]

With how I used my MS-60B+, I almost wish I had gotten the cdr+ instead. It's on a board with an Empress compressor and a SansAmp being used for effects and tuner. I do like the amp sims in it, though which would be missing.

 

[urkel3000]

Longtime owner of this pedal, mine is kind of noisy but it sounds good, especially the choruses, delays, and trems. Imo they sound very lofi, but in a pleasing way. Unfortunately the pitch algorithms are ALL out of tune. anything shimmery or pitch shifty is really, really bad sounding and intrinsically dissonant IMO. And the tracking is really bad. But I like it for what it's good at

 

[bassbrad]

With how I used my MS-60B+, I almost wish I had gotten the cdr+ instead. It's on a board with an Empress compressor and a SansAmp being used for effects and tuner. I do like the amp sims in it, though which would be missing.

There is a trade off between the MS60b+ and MS70CDR+ that is worth considering, I have both. MS60B+ has specifically bass tuned or featured effects as well as the amp/speaker sims but does have a limited selection in the delay and reverb selections as it is missing most of the more exotic and complex sounds that most bass players would likely never use. The original MS60B has more amp sims selections and the speaker sims are more flexible since you can mix and match to try different amp/speaker combos, it also includes some of the more exotic reverb and delay sounds that the + omits. IMHO these are reasonable trade off mostly but you might miss some of the amp sims and speaker sim flexibility. An often dismissed effect are the Zoom synth options that are IMHO quite usable.

MS70CDR & CDR+ do not have distortion, preamp, amp, speaker sims but more than makes up for it in the additional sounds that are not available in the B versions. The + is notcibly quieter and better rendered, not saying thet the originals sounded bad in any way.

 

[Hamrlik]

I love both pedals, but the cdr+ lacks the hpf/lpf blocks which was actually really disappointing. I run each in its own loop (via EHX Switchblade Pro) with the ability to switch their order. Outstanding value on these and definitely an upgrade over the previous iterations (I'm a long time b3n user).