Double Bass NS Design Audio/ DB Emulation Recording Using Impulse Response

[jharms80439]

Definitely an advantage playing arco & pizz on a CR versus the NXT/WAV versions of the NS series. The blend versus the switch is a huge improvement as it actually varies the volume between vertical & horizontal string movement (and has pots inside for balancing full on volume).

I also used a volume pedal (Visual Volume from back in the day) when I had one one of the original CR basses with the switch. The pizz/arco blend control became a feature in later versions.

On my bass ~1-2p on the arco/pizz blend balances between the two pretty well. Well, that and better technique allows me to not use a volume pedal now when switching between arco & pizz - but it does take practice to keep consistent volume between the two even after they are balanced to your own playing pressures.

It’s really only after reading this thread that I’ve taken a hard listen to me playing both acoustic upright DIRECT and my NS to ‘try” to objectively put into words what exactly I seek in my sound. After reflecting on it a bit, it is those acoustic bass artifact sounds that I’m really looking for - not a “better” DB/EUB sound. Hence my own discovery that getting an IR system really won’t help to get me what I’m looking for.

Mike, I did have to laugh a bit when I read your “no body” comment. But it’s not just the body sound taps/artifacts that I’m missing (though I do miss that sound aspect too). And it’s not the muted strings thump either. It IS the other string sounds on the fingerboard as I play that the NS piezo doesn’t pick up and that I miss. I’ve often thought that a mic attached to the solid body might pick up those playing artifacts that I seek. Maybe a high gain contact mic mixed with the NS output...? Hmmm!

Now if I can get my EBS Dynaverb to quit acting up on me, I might just try the contact mic route. . I feel another rabbit hole research project coming my way...

John

 

[bass30et1]

My helix settings:

3sigma audio German Bass Impulse response 5bu -> La Studio Comp (Moderate Compression) ->Cali Q Graphic (+3.5@80HZ, +6.8@240hz, +2.4@750hz, -3.8@2200HZ, -2.6@6600HZ) -> Gain block (Clean gain +7.8) Hit me up and I will send you a couple patches for you to try but you will need the impulse response.
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I have understood an IR such as the 3sigma is only loadable at the end of the HX Stomp chain and not at the beguining.
Am i wrong?

 

[DoubleMIDI]

IR and EQ are linear operations which means the order does not matter. Any non-linear operations like distortion do change the result if they are in front (vs. after) linear operations.
That might even affect linear effects where the input signal is too high so that the signal gets deformed or clipped which is a non-linear operation too.

Personally I would put an IR device directly after an impedance buffer. The impedance buffer should be as linear as possible, may have a HPF (linear op) or not. That avoids any unexpected small non-linearities in later devices in the chain.

The bass body as a sound filter is immediately following the bridge vibration, so it makes sense to use the body modeling IR immediately after the bridge-mounted pickup.

That’s for optimal handling in theory. What you like better might be different for whatever reason.