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Odd Vintage Fender on eBay

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Keef, Aug 18, 2005.


  1. Keef

    Keef

    Jul 3, 2003
    Hollywood, CA
    On auction is a 60's Fender Bass V. Unlike the normal Bass V, it has a 3 by 2 tuner arrangement. The standard arrangement is 5 on one side.

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    It must be a replacement neck (for one thing, the decal is retarded), but who on earth makes a long-scale, five-string, 15-fret replacement neck? Custom luthier job, I suppose...

    This is the standard headstock, by the way:

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    LINK to eBay auction
     
  2. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    No, 15 frets is right. With the added high C string, Fender thought the extra frets would be irrelevant.

    In fact, I think that's part of the reason they discontinued it. Since they were already market leaders, it made no sense to introduce a product that differed from the winning formula too much. Also, the public's familiarity with the by then established P and J basses made the Bass V look kind of weird.

    You're right about the 3 + 2 headstock, unless that's a prototype. Tuners are definitely aftermarket, though, so I'd rule that out.
     
  3. man that looks crazy, that screams refin body at me with a picec of acrlic as a pick gaurd wat red stuff looks like spray paint to hide the routing. i wouldnt touch that with a barge pole unless it was a real good player.
     
  4. that looks like an MM eck and headstock, maybe the guy put on that neck for better tuning stability for a fiver string with a low B maybe?
     
  5. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    MM? No way.

    It's got 15 frets.
     
  6. oh, ok, i guess i was just looking at the headstock...
     
  7. Keef

    Keef

    Jul 3, 2003
    Hollywood, CA
    Sorry Blackbird, I must have explained myself poorly. I do know that the Bass V came with 15 frets – I only mentioned the number in the context of my not believing that a 15 fret replacement neck could ever had been marketed.

    It's a funny instrument, it has an additional string (C) but the exact same number of notes as a P-Bass. :rolleyes:
     
  8. strummer

    strummer

    Jul 27, 2005
    Sweden
    what a horribly stupid little instrument ;)
    I want one!
     
  9. johnp352

    johnp352 Supporting Member

    Aug 19, 2005
    Chicago
    Endorsing Artist: Rick Turner, GK, Malekko, Dredgetone, Pigtronix, Seymour Duncan
    Not fancy..refin ok....anybody? and that ebay neck is NOT right, it reminds me of some of the first 5's..back when the fender was the only commercially available one. i really do recall a company making replacement necks that looked similiar..

    so what you had was a strange Fender..a split mustang pickup on a 15 fret bass..basically a stretched Mustang body too..
     
  10. westland

    westland

    Oct 8, 2004
    Hong Kong
    The Bass V was one of the first CBS/Fender basses after CBS bought the Fender company in Jan 1965 for $13 million (with a $25K/ yr retainer for Leo who thought he might be terminally ill). It was tuned E-C with 15 frets, and was discontinued in 1970. During the same period, they also 'updated' the Fender amps to solid-state -- another non-starter. Both, I believe, were part of a bundle of CBS decisions in the first few years that totally lost them credibility with musicians.

    They did the same thing with Steinway. Quality in both CBS subdivisions was spotty, sometimes good, sometimes mediocre. But arrogant treatment of musicians, and ill-conceived technology improvements in technology lost them a lot of customers.
     
  11. johnp352

    johnp352 Supporting Member

    Aug 19, 2005
    Chicago
    Endorsing Artist: Rick Turner, GK, Malekko, Dredgetone, Pigtronix, Seymour Duncan
    ..outside the 15 fret decision..I like the idea a lot..a 5 with a "high C"..still trying to discern if it's a 34" scale though, as on another post yesterday, a tech stated he measured it and it was a 34, not a 30..though Gruen has it listed as a 30. I am investigating having a 5/high C made with fanned frets..going from a 34.5 to maybe a 32 or 31..I play finger style, and like the space..

    btw, your book looks interesting..
     
  12. The Owl

    The Owl

    Aug 14, 2005
    Atlanta GA
    Once, several years ago in the Boston Guitar Center, someone was selling a Bass-V that had been converted to a 6-string with a clever but obvious bit of woodwork (namely adding a section onto the fingerboard to widen it), and even with that, it only had the range of an average 5-string :rolleyes:
     
  13. Stabone1972

    Stabone1972

    Sep 10, 2005
    Dekalb
    Thats one of the oddest guitars ive ever seen
     
  14. westland

    westland

    Oct 8, 2004
    Hong Kong
    As I understand, they were 34" scales ... I guess not really that radical.

    Thanks ... which book? :confused:
     
  15. OK sounds interesting, don't know how it plays!
     
  16. johnp352

    johnp352 Supporting Member

    Aug 19, 2005
    Chicago
    Endorsing Artist: Rick Turner, GK, Malekko, Dredgetone, Pigtronix, Seymour Duncan
    "global electronic commerce" with case studies..like how to get a Bass V made in China to sell through Rondo Music..
     
  17. westland

    westland

    Oct 8, 2004
    Hong Kong
    For 1965, it really was a clever twist (i.e., before people started putting 6, 7, etc. strings on a bass so they could move across rather than up and down).

    Global Electronic Commerce was my best selling book, though now is hopelessly out of date. But we had a good run with it for about 2 years, particularly for a 'niche' market book.
     
  18. I played one once. It was OK.