Man, I love those EBMM basses! That has got to be a killer sounding setup. I notice the 5HH is a Ball Family Reserve. My Sterling 5HS is one also. I love the neck on yours. My is a solid Rosewood model.
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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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Thanks!! It is definitely a killer sounding setup. I also have a solid Rosewood neck Stingray 4HS SLO special but it is from the PDN run and a BFR Redwood Stingray.
Something came up unexpectedly in my small business so I had to free up some capital and cancel my order. 
Maybe down the road.
Maybe down the road.
Something came up unexpectedly in my small business so I had to free up some capital and cancel my order.
Maybe down the road.
I "liked" your post only in the sense that I understand where you're coming from. All good things in all good time.
Do you get your deposit back?
Hello everyone! Does anyone here own the Barefaced 410 cab? The site claims alot of things are fixed with their version of the 410 compared to other manufacturers. I like the form factor and the look better than their other full range offerings, so I am interested in this cab.... Any help on how it sounds or how it compares to other cabs on the market please?
I have a Four10.... I like it very much. Not sure how to compare it to other company's newest offerings, though. My last 3 4x10's, which i still have but want to sell, are Eden 4x10XST, SWR Goliath III, and a Fender 4x10 with 2 of the 10's tilted up a bit. The Four10 is much better than any of those IMO... as it should be for the cost.
Four10 does not have a tweeter, whereas the SWR and Eden cabs I have do... I much prefer the tone of this tweeterless Barefaced to those of the tweeted cabs mentioned. If you like tweeters then maybe one of the Barefaced 12's like a BB2 would be good for you... if you don't love the tweeter sound, this Foue10 might be really good for you. There's still plenty of highs, just not the sizzly kind a horn with a 4x10 produces, which I don't personally like that much.
The sound dispersion throughout a room seems to me to be much better than the other 4x10's I have and used to use. High freq only comes out one vertical set of 10's to promote this.
Excellent tight lows, good clarity, with that slightly vintage Barefaced 10 sound. That's not to say it doesn't work with modern gear or for a modern sound-- it does-- but excels with this.
So, my opinion: sound is fantastic (and unbelievable with all-tube amps); weight at 49 pounds is half that of my older 3 4x10's. While light, it's still a 4x10 and the width at 24" still can be a little awkward getting through doors, since the handles are on the sides. My Eden had wheels-- but was 95 pounds and needed them, and stairs were still very much a pain-- Four10 is much better for this.
As for comparing it to other makers' newest 4x10's you'll have to get input from others since I do not own any of them.
I know its tough when you can't try it out, and it's expensive so a roll of the dice seems like a big leap... but it's a leap I took, based on knowing how well I liked the One10 and other BF cabs. My favorite setup right now is the Four10 under a Fender Super Bassman. Sublime.
In the end only your ears can tell you if its right for you... so you might have to decide to take the leap of faith, or pass. For me, it's a fine, fine cab.
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Pluto nails it. I have owned many 410s over the years and the Barefaced Four 10 is ahead of them all in terms of efficiency, tone and ease of movement. I have owned SWR, Trace, recent Ampeg and many other 410s I have forgotten over the years and the Barefaced IMO is clearly ahead. As stated it is absolute magic with all tube heads and responds to extreme eq adjustments positively - just does not seem to have a bad sound in it so far. Of course it is expensive but in this case you definitely get what you pay for. The only other 410 I would consider (and I haven't tried one but am sure it will be great) is the new Bergantino 410 which is about the same weight but I suspect will be more modern sounding. Two contrasting approaches there, Barefaced with lightweight cabinets and traditional magnets and Bergantino with neo magnets and heavier cabinets.
I'm just reporting in after a few months' experience with the Super Compact. I remain totally stoked about this cabinet. It continues to exceed my expectations. I still get a smile on my face every time I walk into a venue in one trip with no back strain - and better yet, loading out at home at the end of the night. I've sold two excellent cabinets on TB classifieds (an EA NL-210 and an Aggie GS-112; thanks to the buyers) and I'm not looking back.
I appreciate the elaborate response. I do love a good nice modern tone with the zingy highs, but I find when I am in a band setting, that it doesn't sound as good, and I usually end up cutting them. It certainly looks like an interesting cab and I want to try it with the darkglass amp. Im sure it will sound powerful!
Thanks Pbassmanca
The BB2 puts out a lot of volume. I never have an issue hearing myself even outside.
And it has tons of low end. I can feel the air when I stand n front of it.
The GS-112 is a good cabinet but isn't in the same league, either in power handling, volume or tone (it has a rather exaggerated low end).
The NL-210 is a great cabinet both in volume and tone (very well balanced) and honestly it was a tough call to sell it. The EA has a lot more high end, but I never needed it. I haven't pushed the SC hard enough yet to compare to the EA in terms of volume but I'm guessing it will be comparable for my purposes.
Anyway, I'm happy with the switch & happy with the weight reduction.
Is anyone here using the six 10? There was a thread discussing a six 10 to come to the US and be passed around for people to try. Did that ever happen and if so any opinions to offer? I'm considering this cab for use with a tube amp, any experience-based opinions?
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I have not tried the Six10, but the Four10 is fantastic with a tube head. So, I'd guess the Six10 is 50% more fantastic.
That's the way I would break it down too, good mathing!
I'm wondering how it's 4 ohms. Is that possible with the drivers Alex uses?
I think this came up earlier in the thread when someone asked how you get a 12 ohm or 4 ohm 210 arrangement. You'd think 8 or 4 would be the math. I believe the response was that drivers are never exactly the 4 or 8 rating, and that the numbers fudge a little, but get hand-grenade close. I'm not 100% certain on this. Someone with better Google-fu or brain power can help me out.
Guys I noticed the discussion about the tweeter-less four ten vs. the 12" Barefaced offerings with tweeter.
I want to clarify that the tweeter in a BB2 or BT2 Gen3 doesn't sound harsh or evident like the one in an Eden XST/XLT or SWR Goliath did. In fact you do not notice it very much while playing, it just blends in with the response of the 12" speakers that good. This is caused by the advanced filtering going on and the material this tweeter was made of. It sounds silky smooth.
When you raise the tweeter volume through the L-pad on the back of the cab, the filter responds by not only raising the tweeter output but also starts sending less treble to the 12" speakers in order to have the cab produce a flat frequency response.
The Eden and SWR cabs I mentioned had a simple high pass filter between the signal and the tweeter so the overlapping higher midrange would come both from the tweeter and the 10" speakers. Eden filtered from 3.5khz, SWR from 5khz. The higher midrange always being a harsh sounding problem area including phase problems with those cabs, resulting in a quite narrow beaming high frequency response. You can only hear the tweeter properly when standing directly in front of the cab. Don't get me wrong these are great sounding cabs which have been popular for long time and for a very good reason. Great punch and bottom end! Just the trebles can give you troubles when you move around on stage a lot, as most bassists like to do (haha).
The BT2 sounds a lot more natural in this area and is never harsh sounding.
For me this is the "can do it all very properly cab". I love it!
I never liked harsh sounding cabs with lots of highs coming out but on the BT2 I always have the tweeter blended in at max volume. It sounds great.
I want to clarify that the tweeter in a BB2 or BT2 Gen3 doesn't sound harsh or evident like the one in an Eden XST/XLT or SWR Goliath did. In fact you do not notice it very much while playing, it just blends in with the response of the 12" speakers that good. This is caused by the advanced filtering going on and the material this tweeter was made of. It sounds silky smooth.
When you raise the tweeter volume through the L-pad on the back of the cab, the filter responds by not only raising the tweeter output but also starts sending less treble to the 12" speakers in order to have the cab produce a flat frequency response.
The Eden and SWR cabs I mentioned had a simple high pass filter between the signal and the tweeter so the overlapping higher midrange would come both from the tweeter and the 10" speakers. Eden filtered from 3.5khz, SWR from 5khz. The higher midrange always being a harsh sounding problem area including phase problems with those cabs, resulting in a quite narrow beaming high frequency response. You can only hear the tweeter properly when standing directly in front of the cab. Don't get me wrong these are great sounding cabs which have been popular for long time and for a very good reason. Great punch and bottom end! Just the trebles can give you troubles when you move around on stage a lot, as most bassists like to do (haha).
The BT2 sounds a lot more natural in this area and is never harsh sounding.
For me this is the "can do it all very properly cab". I love it!
I never liked harsh sounding cabs with lots of highs coming out but on the BT2 I always have the tweeter blended in at max volume. It sounds great.
I'll chime in too and say that when I was mentioning tweeters of other cabs while discussing the Four10 above, I was referring to the tweets on the old 4x10's I had-- Eden and SWR, like DiMarco; not to any Barefaced 12's tweeters. I agree with pretty much everything DiMarco said on the subject -- Barefaced tweeters on the 12's are very nice, not harsh, not directional, not beamy.
Di Marco phrased it in reverse, but same thing really-- when you turn "down" the tweet on a Barefaced, it sends the freq's back down to the 12" driver (where the reproduction of them is very sweet), so you can essentially make it a tweeterless cab whenever you want; in traditional cabs (like the2 old 4x10's I mentioned), when you turn down the tweet, you simply no longer have those frequencies at all. The Barefaced tweeter set-up is very smooth and very mellow, not harsh at all, and you can change the cab to a tweeterless one essentially anyway if you want since the BF tweet control is really a crossover control.
Just wanted to clarify so as not to be misunderstood, just in case.
I'll add that I have been very happy with the tweeter on the BT2. This is the first cab I have owned where I leave the tweeter full on with no attenuation. As mentioned above, when you turn off the tweeter you do not only hear a loss of treble (as with most cabs) but a change in the character of the treble.
On another note, I tried an Ampeg B15r head with the BT and the sensitivity of the cabs was apparent. I was not expecting that combination to get as loud as it did. I'm running EL34's with the B15r so it was pretty dirty at higher volumes but there was a huge difference in volume from what I remember when I previously ran the B15r into a few different cabs.
On another note, I tried an Ampeg B15r head with the BT and the sensitivity of the cabs was apparent. I was not expecting that combination to get as loud as it did. I'm running EL34's with the B15r so it was pretty dirty at higher volumes but there was a huge difference in volume from what I remember when I previously ran the B15r into a few different cabs.
