I need to try that trick with the EQ at my next gig. I've been running my MB200 EQ flat the whole time I've owned it.
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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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I need to try that trick with the EQ at my next gig. I've been running my MB200 EQ flat the whole time I've owned it.
Hope it works for you and doesn't result in a blown driver, lol. I mean, I don't go crazy with it... but add enough fat to give it more heft.
Put in my order for a Big Twin 2 just now. I kept listening to YouTube clips trying to decide between the 10CR or 12XN.
It was really difficult. Sometimes I SLIGHTLY liked the sound of the 10CR more. I want the best versatility/tone/efficiency/volume/portability ratio I can get so I went with the Big Twin. I figure if I want more of the "vintage" sound I can turn the tweeter down or just EQ it in and with the kick back wheels, I can carry my amp in one hand and pull the cab along in the other.
So what has the typical wait time been these days? I need to sell my MAS112 now though. Will probably wait until the BF arrives.
It was really difficult. Sometimes I SLIGHTLY liked the sound of the 10CR more. I want the best versatility/tone/efficiency/volume/portability ratio I can get so I went with the Big Twin. I figure if I want more of the "vintage" sound I can turn the tweeter down or just EQ it in and with the kick back wheels, I can carry my amp in one hand and pull the cab along in the other.
So what has the typical wait time been these days? I need to sell my MAS112 now though. Will probably wait until the BF arrives.
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Looks like you followed the same path as me. I also moved on from the MAS112 and on to a Big Twin II and have not regretted it one bit. You will love the Big Twin II... best cab I've ever played.
I'm thinking mine took about 6 weeks if I remember right. Went back and looked... actually it was 4 weeks.
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If stuff is in stock, I've seen it get to the western states in a week.
Ok. I'm in! Just recently acquired a Two10 and now a Big Baby II. I am a very fortunate man to have both side by side to do personal comparisons. (no i can't afford to keep all of them) I'm trying to find the ideal sounding, small-sized cabinet and I now know that whatever cabinet I end up with the nameplate will say Barefaced.
(Super Midget is next)
Thank you Alex for being a great source of knowledge and advice and just an all-around good guy.
(Super Midget is next)
Thank you Alex for being a great source of knowledge and advice and just an all-around good guy.
Initial impressions. I'm obviously using a Darkglass Microtubes 900 to power these things, using a MIJ 80's Fender Jazz as well as a Fodera Matt Garrison Standard and an Alembic Epic from the 90's.
Official verdict:
I love both and want to keep both and add a Super Midget. One for each bass. (guess which is for which bass) haha
Is the Super Midget really the smallest possible outcome for this amount of whoop-a$$ tone and involuntary bowel movement volume?!?! That would make three cabs for three basses. Isn't that the norm? Shouldn't one have one preferred cabinet for each preferred bass? OMG GAS is painful!
All I can say is...
wow
Official verdict:
I love both and want to keep both and add a Super Midget. One for each bass. (guess which is for which bass) haha
Is the Super Midget really the smallest possible outcome for this amount of whoop-a$$ tone and involuntary bowel movement volume?!?! That would make three cabs for three basses. Isn't that the norm? Shouldn't one have one preferred cabinet for each preferred bass? OMG GAS is painful!
All I can say is...
wow
I was told 2-3 weeks for my Four10 which I ordered last week, but I know they just got a bunch of orders to work on with the start of 2017, so I'm waiting patiently.
Congratulations!
Have you tried running the Two10 horizontally?
It might have a more balanced tone while running it on that type of carpet - shouldn't hurt to at least try it.
Maybe use something as a wedge to tip the front of the cab back just a bit.
If low end booty and low mids are your focus and not stuff over 4Khz, I'd say the Super Compact would be the smallest weapon with which you could liquify spleens and powderize kidney stones.
I've used it live in a medium sized room and was blown away by the response and articulation and frequency dispersion! The Two10 was my initiation into the "holy *$%#, it's a Barefaced" thing
Yes I agree, the Two10 is like opening up a can of whoop-a$$
(my first real amp was a vintage '70's SVT)
The Fodera is seeking a little bit more transparency so that is where I'm headed.
Incredible friggin' cab for the Jazz bass though! Like OMG incredible! I've tried the Two10 with a Mesa D800, an Aguilar TH500 as well as the DG MT900 and I'm convinced you just can't get a bad sound out of the thing
Yes I agree, the Two10 is like opening up a can of whoop-a$$
(my first real amp was a vintage '70's SVT)
The Fodera is seeking a little bit more transparency so that is where I'm headed.
Incredible friggin' cab for the Jazz bass though! Like OMG incredible! I've tried the Two10 with a Mesa D800, an Aguilar TH500 as well as the DG MT900 and I'm convinced you just can't get a bad sound out of the thing
alexclaber
Commercial User
I wouldn't recommend doing that - until we get really carefully recorded clips done you're at risk of all the other variables confusing things. Just email and ask - can't remember the last time we got that decision wrong!
I think all video demos of bass gear are basically irrelevant to what I play and how I want it to sound. I've never seen an amp, cab or bass demo that remotely matched what tone I want. They are recording their style and their tone and then you listen to it on tiny computer speakers.
If your budget allows it is great to have a variety of cabs. I have a One 10, a Bergantino NV115 and a Berg CN112. (There is a Berg dealer within easy drive of me so I bought those before I heard of BF. The BF showroom is a little more of a drive, though my Daughter is moving to London soon!)
All three are good, all different, useful for different gigs, tone, styles. If I had to do it over again I'd try to find cabs that would also work together but for the gigs I do I really only need one.
alexclaber
Commercial User
Yes and no. If there's a wide variety of sounds and they're accurately miced then they can be pretty good for comparing midrange and treble tonal content. Comparing lows via these clips is a fool's errand unless you're using really good headphones or huge studio monitors.
Took the RM800 EVO out for an inaugural spin last night, sat atop of my ST. We had full PA support, a sound man and I was DI'd. To be honest I did have concerns about using the RM, having never actually turned it on before (crazy I know). I did not need to worry in terms of volume though, as it is a beast. I was not expecting such a powerful sound.
I set it up as I would do my ABM 500 EVO III (master volume at 9 o'clock, shape on [not flat] and no EQ) and got a fright with the first note I played (before the sound check). I settled on about 8 o'clock in the end, but that felt like too much, even for this fairly large venue, especially when the shape button was on - I suspect the staging had something to do with that. I often use the shape on my ABM to good effect (to my ears anyway), using my Music Man Sterling's tone controls to tailor the sound, but the EVO seems to add more bottom, which was not necessarily a good thing on this stage. The overall sound was very clear and precise though and the setup certainly worked well.
I did have a few issues with the button placements being different and at one point I turned on the compressor instead of adding a little drive! I also had to remind myself of the opposite action with the shape button - in for 'shape', out for 'flat'.
One minor downside of the amp is that it was very difficult to see front panel wording with a dark floor reflecting in that mirror finish. However I realise that was my problem for not getting fully acquainted with the control layout before gigging! The mute light is also quite subtle compared to the overly bright blue led on the ABM, which does not make it so obvious that it is on.
I have another gig tomorrow in the more standard setting (for my band) of a mid sized pub with no stage. This will be a better test for me, as the sound from my rig will not be competing with a full PA system.
I will let you know how it goes.
I set it up as I would do my ABM 500 EVO III (master volume at 9 o'clock, shape on [not flat] and no EQ) and got a fright with the first note I played (before the sound check). I settled on about 8 o'clock in the end, but that felt like too much, even for this fairly large venue, especially when the shape button was on - I suspect the staging had something to do with that. I often use the shape on my ABM to good effect (to my ears anyway), using my Music Man Sterling's tone controls to tailor the sound, but the EVO seems to add more bottom, which was not necessarily a good thing on this stage. The overall sound was very clear and precise though and the setup certainly worked well.
I did have a few issues with the button placements being different and at one point I turned on the compressor instead of adding a little drive! I also had to remind myself of the opposite action with the shape button - in for 'shape', out for 'flat'.
One minor downside of the amp is that it was very difficult to see front panel wording with a dark floor reflecting in that mirror finish. However I realise that was my problem for not getting fully acquainted with the control layout before gigging! The mute light is also quite subtle compared to the overly bright blue led on the ABM, which does not make it so obvious that it is on.
I have another gig tomorrow in the more standard setting (for my band) of a mid sized pub with no stage. This will be a better test for me, as the sound from my rig will not be competing with a full PA system.
I will let you know how it goes.
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I thought along the same lines. I was looking for a more vintage tone for most of my gigs but wanted the flexibility of more modern if needed. The Big Twin with the tweeter turned down does vintage really well.
A lot of people post here about wanting the lightest and most portable so go for the smaller Barefaced cabs. I am moving from a Bergantino NV412 so this is under half the weight and way more portable. Even better than my Bergantino HT/EX 112 pair. The barefaced is only just heavier than one of the Bergs - and it has wheels.
I have had for a few months and the NV412 is going up for sale.
Photo is from a recent gig. Had been using mainly with the P bass, but it really makes the J growl. Really suits some of the 70's funk tracks we do.
Look what just arrived! I can officially say that this little guy is what everyone said it would be and easily beats my Ampeg SVT210AV. While "slight" overkill, the GK Fusion MB 800 is the perfect mate for the One10. It sounds like a slice of my Ampeg Heritage 810 with some 12" Ampeg sprinkled on top and in no way sounds small.
Very happy!
Very happy!
Look what just arrived! I can officially say that this little guy is what everyone said it would be and easily beats my Ampeg SVT210AV. While "slight" overkill, the GK Fusion MB 800 is the perfect mate for the One10. It sounds like a slice of my Ampeg Heritage 810 with some 12" Ampeg sprinkled on top and in no way sounds small.
Very happy!
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Cool picture, the little mighty-might amongst the giants.
