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#14,741
John D Harris said:
Super Compact or Super Compact T for sure.

If you only do low volume stuff, the SMT would probably be fine, but won't have the thickness in the low end like the SC(T).
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"low volume" is not really how I should have said it.

I've heard SM users say that when really pushing a lot of power through it, it started to sound a bit compressed, boxy, less natural in its tone.

That could probably be alleviated somewhat with judicious use of an adjustable HPF &/or adding a second SM.
 
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RVBASS said:
I love my Big Baby 2 cabs, but I would like to get a smaller cab for times when I don't need the BB2 size. Which would get me closest to the BB2 sound, Super Mini or Super Compact? Thanks.
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If you want a smaller version of the BB2 I'd go with the SMT.
 
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RVBASS said:
I love my Big Baby 2 cabs, but I would like to get a smaller cab for times when I don't need the BB2 size. Which would get me closest to the BB2 sound, Super Mini or Super Compact? Thanks.
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If you ever consider using the smaller cab with your Big Baby cab, I would get Super Mini...since Alex does not recommend using Super Compact with Big Baby together...

"... if you're looking to buy two Barefaced 1x12XN cabs to stack, here's the pair I would NOT recommend: Big Baby 3 (or 2) + Super Compact (or Super 3rd)."

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Using multiple 12XN cabs

We make a lot of different 12XN models - here's how they match up best! When it comes to the 1x12XN models we have the Super Mini (fka Super Midget), Super Compact, Super 3rd and Big Baby 3. And for the 2x12XN models we have the Super Twin and Big Twin 3. All the "Super" models are also...
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Has anybody ever tried to run a microphone into a bass amp and into a Barefaced cab?
Recently I've been using my garage for band practice and I was thinking about using my bass rig for vocals and bass (also together, if possible). Honestly, I don't use my rig since a while because I mainly play drums nowadays, but I'd be more than happy to bring it into my garage and revitalize it. It's a Quilter Bass Block 800 with a Barefaced Super Midget cab. What do you guys think?
 
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Hypercaffium said:
Has anybody ever tried to run a microphone into a bass amp and into a Barefaced cab?
Recently I've been using my garage for band practice and I was thinking about using my bass rig for vocals and bass (also together, if possible). Honestly, I don't use my rig since a while because I mainly play drums nowadays, but I'd be more than happy to bring it into my garage and revitalize it. It's a Quilter Bass Block 800 with a Barefaced Super Midget cab. What do you guys think?
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Why not? The BB800 and the Super Midget are quite neutral sounding, so you could use them like a PA.
Providing the SM has a tweeter (probably, as it was standard a few years ago — now it's optional)
I would try to raise the cab, do you have the TopHat stand mount option for the SM?
 
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Yes, mine has a tweeter and no, I don't have the stand mount. But since my garage is also my home gym I'm pretty sure I can find something to raise the cab like a plyometric box or a bench. I can also buy a tilter or an amplifier stand if it will be necessary. For now I prefer to keep all the amps on the floor so when I workout I can move them easily around the room. Do you think it would be possible to run both bass and vocals at the same time?
Thanks for your reply.
 
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After playing with the Six10 pretty exclusively over the past few weeks, I skipped the schlep last night and used the practice room's 810E and it is official... I am spoiled. Have always enjoyed a fridge, but holy cow it sounded like a wet wooly blanket over everything (comparatively speaking), especially at the top end. Was actually kinda surprising.
 
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My 15:24 arrived this morning!
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Haans said:
Sounds awesome, as expected, through my Ampeg PF-20T at home. First impression is that it has more clarity than my Ampeg PF-115HE with a tweeter. My 15:24 is tweeterless.
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Cool deal!

That's what I noticed about the Barefaced 10'a vs 12's. I had a few 10" cabs before I got my Super Twin with the 12's. None of my cabs have tweeters and the 12's have more highs than the 10's to my ears…..by a wide margin.
But the 10's have plenty of clarity for me.
Alex mentioned that the 15's should be somewhere in the middle. That's what I understood anyway.
 
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Haans said:
Sounds awesome, as expected, through my Ampeg PF-20T at home. First impression is that it has more clarity than my Ampeg PF-115HE with a tweeter. My 15:24 is tweeterless.
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I don't know if you can A/B test the PF-115HE and the 15:24, it would be interesting to see if the later is louder for a given setting on the amp. At least, that's what I would expect, given that Barefaced cabs are very efficient - but it would be interesting to test and confirm the 15:24 is louder, especially when used with a low wattage tube amp?

I did the test in the past with other cabs, using a db meter app on my phone. It's not a very professional device for measuring, but it gives a rough idea. I could confirm what my ears heard, and put a figure (decibel) on the difference.
 
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gtirard said:
I don't know if you can A/B test the PF-115HE and the 15:24, it would be interesting to see if the later is louder for a given setting on the amp. At least, that's what I would expect, given that Barefaced cabs are very efficient - but it would be interesting to test and confirm the 15:24 is louder, especially when used with a low wattage tube amp?

I did the test in the past with other cabs, using a db meter app on my phone. It's not a very professional device for measuring, but it gives a rough idea. I could confirm what my ears heard, and put a figure (decibel) on the difference.
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If I remember, I'll see if can do that test. My very rudimentary switching between them yesterday gave me the impression that the BF cab was a bit louder than the Ampeg.
 
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Well, after an ugly ordeal with the local shipping courier, the SuperCompact finally arrived!. I'm pairing it with a Quilter Bass Block 803.

After playing with it for a few days, I think everything I've read about Barefaced it's true: great sound! I'm not a fan of using adjectives for sound, but the bass sounds tight and defined and I find the sound is more even across the room.

I've been using a Fender Rumble 100 for the last 10 years, so the comparison is not totally fair (the Rumble is a great cheap combo, but it is 1/8 of the price of the new rig...). But after playing with both setups, comparing back and forth, you can pinpoint the bass of the SC to the cab itself. With the Rumble, the bass sounds more like it's coming from all around, if that makes sense.


I made the comparison with a SPL meter, and I also noticed that the SC sounded louder, even when it was measuring a couple of dBs less.

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gtirard said:
I don't know if you can A/B test the PF-115HE and the 15:24, it would be interesting to see if the later is louder for a given setting on the amp. At least, that's what I would expect, given that Barefaced cabs are very efficient - but it would be interesting to test and confirm the 15:24 is louder, especially when used with a low wattage tube amp?

I did the test in the past with other cabs, using a db meter app on my phone. It's not a very professional device for measuring, but it gives a rough idea. I could confirm what my ears heard, and put a figure (decibel) on the difference.
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I did a quick test with a db meter app just now. Just playing a low E relatively hard and consistent. There was actually very little difference. The first part of the graph is the BF and the second part is the Ampeg:
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I checked the specs of the two, and the sensitivity of the BF is 100dB and the Ampeg 99.5dB, so not a huge difference.

Amp was set to flat eq and both gain and volume at about 9 o'clock.
 
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