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Official Virtual AMPEG Portaflex Club

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Rip Topaz said:
Only reason I can tell is because I also have both. I actually had to plug in and fiddle with them to figure it out.

Amplitube wins this round. The other isn't bad, but very noisy.
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Actually the first one is Jamup B15 the second one Amplitube B15R. You can see the settings on the amps in the pictures. It seems like 75% gain results more drive on the B15R. In addition there are no mid control on the B15 1966 on Jamup, I might have to much high mids on the B15R on Amplitube compare to the B15 on Jamup so the B15R will sound more harsh then the B15 on Jamup when the bass is soloed.
I like both tones, but I prefer the dirtier Ampitube B15. The Jamup B15 can't get dirty without help.
The last point is something that I've noticed on several bass amps on Jamup, the B15 the Redhead and the RB800 can't get dirty. There is no GK growl in the RB800 and the SWR lack some muscle. But then I'm not sure if the SWR have any OD capabilities.
 
#83
JimmyM said:
SWR amps can get a decent grind if you crank the gain hard. Not the best I ever heard because it's all single tube, but not bad.
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Well, thanks for sharing your experience with the real amps out there Jimmy, really appreciate this!

We will be very happy if you and the other experienced veterans will visit this thread sometimes. We "need" some feedback from you guys which are familiar with the real amps out there. ;)

The SWR on Jamup can't really grind. I think it lacks some gain.
 
#84
Sounds like the Jamup is lacking all the way around in dirt sounds. Unfamiliar with it but it's likely the same problem I have with all these emulators except ones that run in a nice computer...lack of RAM and processing power.
 
#85
If you see my previous post with the two B15's. The first one is the B15 on Jamup, it is set on the 1966 mode. It have only volume control, bass and treble.
The second take is the B15R on Amplitube iOS. It has gain, master, bass, mids with adjustable mids position, treble and these ultra high/ ultra low switches.

Which of these two takes comes closer to a real B15 or have more Ampeg flavor to it?
I like better the B15 on Amplitube which is a bit darker and dirtier. But I do not that lucky as you and do not own a real B15 as a reference!
 
#86
You know Jimmy, like Seamonkey I think that emulation is the future, but in the same time I do not think the the classical big amps (tube or SS, but specialy the all tube amps) are the past. I hope that beasts such as the Ampeg SVT CL/ VR or the GK 700RB/ 1001RB will never go away.
In the same time I can't see that the majority of bass players will use the big/ heavy beasts on daily basis.
 
#88
Yes :smug:
Well, but the setup on each amp have much to say. I should have reduced the gain on the B15R and reduce some of these high-mids to soften up the B15R on Amplitube. Both B15' sound nice, but there are some differences on the sonic signature there. The Amplitube one seem to be darker and a bit more aggressive/ dirty. I can't really get the B15 on Jamup to be dirty, so I'll try instead to soften up the B15R on Amplitube, just in order for the comparison.
 
#89
I've been using Amplitube exclusively since the update. I'm really digging their version of the B15.

Now if we can just get a few more bass goodies now that they've stepped up their game, I'll be happy.

Still haven't sprung for the 30-pin interface, though. Maybe for Christmas I'll treat myself.

I'm actually torn. As much as I'd like to just get an interface and keep going with AT iOS, part of me just wants to get Amplitube SVX for my laptop and work with that instead.
 
#90
In that first test, the second one by far sounds better and closer to the real thing. You said that was Amplitube and I can tell. But why are they so noisy? Are you jacking treble all the way up or something? Amplitube was less noisy but still had some. usually the tracks I've done with it don't get noisy like that unless you seriously crank treble and distortion.

No offense...the playing is righteous and the sounds themselves are pretty cool, but just kind of noisy.
 
#91
I think Duke uses a very high gain setting. Plus he's playing a Rick so there's that treble bite going on as well.

When I use that amp with a P with flats, I get old school goodness. I only get extra noise when I crank the gain.

Keep in mind that this is AT for iOS, not the full version.
 
#92
JimmyM said:
In that first test, the second one by far sounds better and closer to the real thing. You said that was Amplitube and I can tell. But why are they so noisy? Are you jacking treble all the way up or something?
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The treble is on about 13:00, the high mids are set on 15:00. I still use the iRig interface which is noisy. I plan to get the 30 pin interface which will improve the noise issue.
 
#95
I'll tell you this, though...even with all the noise, it's still usable in a mix. Ever listen to old recordings with the tracks soloed? That's some noisy stuff, and it still sounds great and you can't hear the noise once the whole band starts playing.
 
#96
I've used AT for iOS (with the Irig interface) for a band rehearsal, and no one could tell the difference between AT and my normal DI.

Only really difference I noticed was in the low end, but I'm expecting the better interface to fix that.
 
#97
..the playing is righteous
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Thanks for the compliment Jimmy!

The noise issue can for sure be improved. As Rip say I use my Ric on most recordings, and that with high gain and in addition hefty high-mids boost and some treble boost bring more noise into the mix.
I plan on getting a 30pin interface which will help with the noise reduction.
In addition Jimmy thanks for sharing you Ampeg/ Portaflex knowledge regarding our recordings.

I'll try today to record something with something else then my "edgy" 4003 Ric or my Geddy Jazz.
I've also a CV60 P bass with old nickel rounds on it and also a Hofner copy with some really old steel rounds on it. Both of them will give some other impression of "my" tone then my Ric or the Geddy.
 
#98
Here are two new takes. This time I tried to go for an other tone then my typical high-mids/ treble and high gain style.

On the first take I've recorded a medley of 2 more known basslines... I used my Eastone Beatles bass.
On the second track I'm back to my own peculiar creations... I went a bit "extreme" with the setting (for being me!), lots of low mids and lows and decent treble cut.

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