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old fender 2x15 ccabinet advice?

i play a stingray through an svt4pro with a cheapo hartke 4x10...i think the cab sucks...it growls in the middle fine but i need more low end oomph...friend told me i could augment the 4x10 with an old fender 2x15 cab...they have em used locally for around $300, albeit a little beat up... i tour so im not concerned with cosmetics...any thoughts on this particular cab or should i think of another way to improve the sound?

i dont want a fridge...i rarely play gigs without a house pa and i just wanna have the sack if need it...

thanks for any feedback.
 
i play a stingray through an svt4pro with a cheapo hartke 4x10...i think the cab sucks...it growls in the middle fine but i need more low end oomph...friend told me i could augment the 4x10 with an old fender 2x15 cab...they have em used locally for around $300, albeit a little beat up... i tour so im not concerned with cosmetics...any thoughts on this particular cab or should i think of another way to improve the sound?

i dont want a fridge...i rarely play gigs without a house pa and i just wanna have the sack if need it...

thanks for any feedback.


If it is a bassman 100 215, then add some more bracing on the inside and put some eminence 3015's Kappalite (8ohm) speakers in it.. You will have to close off the port at the bottom about 4 inches (2x2) Add a mid 6" driver to it.. and take off with it.
 
If the Fender Bassman cabinet has original speakers and not missing a bunch of stuff, or modifications, I'd go with it. And as a bonus for scoring the classic cab at a decent price, the cab should be a nice lower end boost, combined with your amp and EQ abilities for your rig. A variable would be whether or not the Bassman cab has original speakers and, whether original or not, their condition. For a good while, I used a Sunn Colosiem 300 with an original Bassman cab that I had the original speakers rebuilt in and added an Acoustic 106 2-15 cab. What a great combo. Lots of whatever you needed with the help of your amps EQ. I'm digressing a bit, but many threads I've read, along with seeing rigs in action, I'm amazed at how amp EQs are used so little by a lot of bass players. In my experience, you can get just about any sound from your rig with all the possibilities that your EQ bands offer. A tremendous advantage to the early rigs with bass, treble and sometimes middle controls only. Not sure why this feature is not used to the fullest by many. Anyway, with the Bassman cab, you can use it and still have something that will hold its value, more so if original speakers etc. That's exactly what I did. I still use the cab, although very carefully since I replaced the tolex and grill cloth. It is stunning looking now as well as functional. On the extra bracing that Froggy mentioned, I didn't have to do that, but I did have to add some more back screws to prevent vibration rattles. Enjoy!
 
For a good while, I used a Sunn Colosiem 300 with an original Bassman cab.

I had the same thing years ago, Sunn Coliseum amp (black and sliver face) and a Fender Bassman 100 412 cab, back then, I felt that I had the best sounding rig around! I have another one of those cabs that I am going to redo, and will get another Sunn Coliseum to go on top of it, then all I will need to finish it out will be to get another Rick 4001.
 
some really smart kid i usto know thought it would be cool to add the 4x10 to his 2x15, i suppose for the opposite reason as you. I walked by it and looked at it, he goes "i know, its totally unnecessary" thinking hes a big shot because his newly formed full stack is louder then the guitar players combo.

well his amp caught on fire because his 2x15 was 4 ohms, and so was the 4x10. (he didnt know what ohms were at the time, still probably doesnt)

yea he doesnt act like a big shot anymore
 
some really smart kid i usto know thought it would be cool to add the 4x10 to his 2x15, i suppose for the opposite reason as you. I walked by it and looked at it, he goes "i know, its totally unnecessary" thinking hes a big shot because his newly formed full stack is louder then the guitar players combo.

well his amp caught on fire because his 2x15 was 4 ohms, and so was the 4x10. (he didnt know what ohms were at the time, still probably doesnt)

yea he doesnt act like a big shot anymore

I hate to say it.. but that is funny!!!!
 
i probably wont fry the amp as i would run two cabs from 2 amps in the 4 pro...id be more worried about smoking the cabs...but like i said 99% of gigs have a PA, so i dont turn up too loud...just looking to add some oomph to the low end...

on that note, though, if they di me my rig is not as important. if they mike the cab, which one do i mike???

i play mostly thumpy hard hitting low stuff (i know its a stretch for a bass player) do i even need the hartke 410??

would i be better off getting rid of that and getting just a higher quality 215 or two 15's???

i dont know if i mentioned theres only one guitar player but he's effin loud! i love to compete with him.
 
Ditto on doing 15s if you're looking for more beef. I'm one of those that want my pants leg to shake yet have just a little twang to go with it. Several ways to get there and a good deal has to do with power. Just like I always say, "You can't have too much bass" I'll add that "You can't have too much power." Then dial in bunches of or minusses of what you like (recall my EQ comments from previous thread.) One of the rigs that I like to use is the Ampeg SVT 350 with the Ampeg CL cabinet with 4-10s, 1-15 and a horn and add an Ampeg B25B 2-15 cab. I once was using this rig for an outdoor festival and a friend of my that was in the audience happened to walk by the soundguy's spot and noticed on the board that he had NO volume for the bass channel on the board, but everyone else was about halfway or more up! So even though I was mic'd, I didn't need to be, using that rig. To answer your question on where to mic, but your mic directly in front of the center of(mic being perfectly horizontal) the bottom speaker of your cab, almost against the grill.
 
i love the modded cab...that is kinda my thing to dick with stuff but i tour and i need to kick a$$ if i want to sell t-shirts...i dont want to spend a boatload but i need decent durable stuff...can i get all the modern hifi stuff to stick in an old cab or would i just be better off buying what i want...

btw i play with an svt 4 pro, so wattage isnt really an issue...i know not everybody is a fan but i like the hifi colored sound...with a stingray?? bang.

(i used to play with a mia jazz and a tube head...the sound didnt match the music i play)
 
i love the modded cab...that is kinda my thing to dick with stuff but i tour and i need to kick a$$ if i want to sell t-shirts...i dont want to spend a boatload but i need decent durable stuff...can i get all the modern hifi stuff to stick in an old cab or would i just be better off buying what i want...

btw i play with an svt 4 pro, so wattage isnt really an issue...i know not everybody is a fan but i like the hifi colored sound...with a stingray?? bang.

(i used to play with a mia jazz and a tube head...the sound didnt match the music i play)


In that case, you were right in the first place to get the Fender and possibly some new 15s for it.
 
i use a bassman 215 with a peavey 4 10 with a sunn 1200s and the bassman sounds like a grizzly bear! i've got a original speakers in mind so i'm quite lucky, esp as i have no idea of the tech side of cabs but i can highly reccommend!
 
i play a stingray through an svt4pro with a cheapo hartke 4x10...i think the cab sucks...it growls in the middle fine but i need more low end oomph...friend told me i could augment the 4x10 with an old fender 2x15 cab...they have em used locally for around $300, albeit a little beat up... i tour so im not concerned with cosmetics...any thoughts on this particular cab or should i think of another way to improve the sound?

i dont want a fridge...i rarely play gigs without a house pa and i just wanna have the sack if need it...

thanks for any feedback.
Is it a Bassman 50 or Bassman135? the Bassman 50 had the speakers diagonaly opposed.