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Older than the earth it self.

Seriously-how can u beleive it is billions of years old,yet cant beleive its 6000---come on how gulliable are you?

Because there is endless evidence that it is billions of years old and no evidence whatsoever that it is anywhere near as young as 6000 years. Gullible is believing that the light from most of the stars that we see on earth would take less than a few million years to reach us.
 
The earth is only 6,000 years old

I understand that one particular train of though is that if God made the earth then he made it fully formed with all the history built in.

If he exists, why cant he make glaciers and oil fields etc and build them in instead of them forming naturally?

I think its a good explanation personally but thats just me!
 
I understand that one particular train of though is that if God made the earth then he made it fully formed with all the history built in.

If he exists, why cant he make glaciers and oil fields etc and build them in instead of them forming naturally?

I think its a good explanation personally but thats just me!

Since your post has just sentenced this thread to death by the mods ill guess ill play along just a bit.

So God is such an uber geek that he tuned the radio emision on some of the particules to match a materia that would be billions of years old, but not just here but in the whole universe and setting it to very different dates... in just 7 days yeah sure...
 


Technically not in relation to the age of the Earth, carbon dating is only for organic objects a lot younger than the Earth.

Radio-Dating is where it is at:

The most commonly-used methods of dating geological formations involve the process of radioactive decay. Certain atoms are unstable, and their nuclei sometimes break apart and change into another element through a process known as "radioactive decay". Some of these radioactive elements transform themselves by emitting a high-energy particle consisting of two protons and two neutrons, a process known as "alpha decay". Other radioactive elements decay when a neutron inside the nucleus breaks into a proton and an electron. The proton stays in the nucleus, and the electron is ejected at very high speed--a process known as "beta decay".

Probably the best-known of the radioactive elements is uranium, which is the heaviest element found in nature. The uranium nucleus comes in several versions. Each version is known as an "isotope". All isotopes of uranium have 92 protons in the nucleus (it is the number of protons which determines to which chemical element an atom belongs), but the number of neutrons can range from 141 to 146. Thus, the total number of particles in the nucleus (protons plus neutrons) in uranium can vary from 233 to 238. Each of these isotopes is identified by its "atomic number"--the total number of particles in its nucleus. Uranium, for instance, is found in three different isotopes, uranium-233 (abbreviated chemically as U-233), U-235 and U-238.

All of the isotopes of uranium are radioactive, and decay by emitting an alpha particle. Through a series of intermediate steps, the U-235 atom will decay to form an atom of the lead isotope 207 (abbreviated chemically as Pb-207). The Pb-207 atom does not undergo radioactive decay--it is "stable"--and thus over time all U-235 will tend to decay to form increasing amounts of Pb-207. Other chemical elements may have some isotopes that undergo radioactive decay, and other isotopes that do not decay--they are also "stable". The other radioactive elements will decay to form different stable "daughter elements".

Radio-dating is possible because of the fact that the decay of a radioactive element into its daughter element takes place at a constant rate, known as the "half-life", and the half-life of various radio-decay rates can be measured very precisely. U-235, for instance, has a half-life of 713 million years. If we start with a known quantity of U-235, say one pound, in 713 million years this material will consist of half U-235 and half Pb-207. In another 713 million years, half of the remaining uranium will decay, and the material will now consist of three-fourths lead and one-fourth uranium.

Conversely, if we calculate what the ratio of lead to uranium is in a given rock, we can calculate the length of time that has passed since the original uranium started decaying. For instance, if we determine that a rock consists of one-sixteenth U-235 and fifteen-sixteenths Pb-207, we know that a total of four half-lives have passed since the original uranium started decaying, and therefore the rock was formed approximately 2.8 billion years ago.
 
Certainly. Sorry, it probably would have been best for me to have helped with providing a unified front. :hmm:

As a side note; C14​ would make a cool, slightly esoteric, tattoo. :)

In fact i was wrong. C14 hlaf life is 5700 years, anyways potasium 40 and uranium have a larger half-life the latter being 4.47 billion years. Just to name a few of the radio emiting elements found in earth.
 
I understand that one particular train of though is that if God made the earth then he made it fully formed with all the history built in.

If he exists, why cant he make glaciers and oil fields etc and build them in instead of them forming naturally?

Give the guy a little more credit- I don't think he'd go out of his way to put dinosaur bones under layers of sediment that could only have been formed over millions of years just to trick us :p