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One cab or two?

rapidfirerob

Fusion rules!
Dec 3, 2007
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I'm playing my GB Shuttle 6.0 through two GB Neo 112 IIs, and very happily I might add, stacking them vertically. I've played two gigs with this rig so far, number three this Saturday at an outdoor festival. The following Friday we're playing a small club. I haven't been there myself, but one of the guitarists has, and he says it is fairly small. While I certainly don't need the volume, I was thinking of bringing two cabs, just so I can hear myself and keeping the volume down. I don't own an amp stand to put one cab on, nor do I want to buy one really. What do you think? Thanks.
 
If moving the cabs is easy, and space on stage is no problem, I would bring them both. You can always turn down below your top volume. But you can't turn up above your top volume. More speakers usually seems to sound better too, maybe I am just imagining that though.
 
Of course I thought of a chair, but don't think my GK cab would fit in one very well. My thoughts were like K2000. I may be setting up on the floor. The stage is small and there is a piano on there that doesn't get moved, I understand. There are six of us in the band including the singer (some gigs have two drummers-Allman Bros. tribute band: Link Removed)
 
I don't like amp stands - they are generally designed for guitar cabs, so with a bass cab they are dangerously close to their tipping point. I use a large milk crate and stand my 210 on its side on the crate.
 
A chair works just fine as a stand... they are fairly available...
Yeah, and you can put your spittoon on it as well for when you're singing and dippin' Skoal at the same time.

Jeez, show some class, dude! Chairs with amps on them look lame. The only thing more lame are milk crates. Either use a proper amp stand or tilt it back with a wedge of some sort...I use a small piece of wood that I found in the hardware store parking lot and painted black.

BTW, two cabs isn't all about volume, Rob. It's also about tone, and the tone of two cabs always sounds better than just one...it's physics. I play very quietly and I'll often use an 810 just because I like the sound better, although on some of my gigs an 810 is just silly so I have a smaller rig for them. But two 112's is hardly big. I say bring both.
 
+1 to Jimmy's post. With two 112s, you can turn both down, or only plug in the top speaker, which will give you a reduction both in volume and low bass (below about 80 Hz) which works well in boomy rooms (at least it works for me in a cavernous church).
 
... or only plug in the top speaker, which will give you a reduction both in volume and low bass (below about 80 Hz) which works well in boomy rooms (at least it works for me in a cavernous church).
You get more mids into your ears from lifting the top cab up, not the same as cutting out lows.

Unless it's a giant cab you aren't losing lows from raising it.

You will lose some from the bottom speaker sponging up the output of the top one.
 
You get more mids into your ears from lifting the top cab up, not the same as cutting out lows.

Unless it's a giant cab you aren't losing lows from raising it.

You will lose some from the bottom speaker sponging up the output of the top one.
I was referring to the cancellation of bass frequencies you get from the floor if you have one speaker up a few feet and don't have the bottom speaker connected to couple with the upper speaker and the floor. This cancellation provides a sharp reduction at about 80 Hz, I believe.
 
Always bring both cabs with you and stack them. I play with a pair of 112's myself and depending on the room, I might disconnect the bottom cab, the top cab, or run them both. Point is you're ready for anything, especially if one cab blows up.

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I'm with JimmyM 100% on this one.

If you're going to have a chair onstage for anything other than some kind of "sit down" gig or to help with a broken leg or something, you may as well hang cymbals from the ceiling with bailing twine and use an old floor lamp for a mic stand.

If you absolutely HAVE to use a chair to prop up a monitor or amp or whatever, at least cover it with a couple of yards of black fabric so it can't be seen.
 
I'm with JimmyM 100% on this one.

If you're going to have a chair onstage for anything other than some kind of "sit down" gig or to help with a broken leg or something, you may as well hang cymbals from the ceiling with bailing twine and use an old floor lamp for a mic stand.

If you absolutely HAVE to use a chair to prop up a monitor or amp or whatever, at least cover it with a couple of yards of black fabric so it can't be seen.
Bro, I'm so hardcore about that that I wouldn't even allow the fabric covering up the chair! People just say, "Oh look, a chair covered up with black fabric." ;) But as a desperation move, I will admit it's better than the naked chair.

Floor lamp for a mic stand....BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I can see you and I are going to get along just fine!