Just edited my post above.
I found another manual online that say’s connect the speaker.
You may need to do some more research.
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Orange Terror Bass 500
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I found another manual online that say’s connect the speaker.
You may need to do some more research.
I have found that I will never be able to get the "sound of my amp" in my headphones. I have a few Ampeg amps, two of which have headphone out and aux in options. Neither provides the "sound of my amp" in the headphones. That why I use the mixer and my pedalboard, which provide greater tone control over the sound. I suppose if you have some kind of IR pedal, you might be able to get some more of that amp sound through headphones, but I typically like a clean sound anyways, so it was never an issue for me.
I think the Orange website is just applying the same text to all its amps, regardless of whether it is accurate information or not. The Terror Bass amps are solid state and thus you should be able to use it without a speaker connected. I'd reach out to Orange for specific clarification.
could be.
That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
The AD200 (their tube amp) would want a speaker load for sure.
I’m finding conflicting material online.
I would want to hear from Orange directly.
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I’ve used my Terror Bass (gen 2) as a preamp a couple of times. I emailed Orange support and they said it was ok.
So I spoke with Orange - the new bass terrors post 2018 are fine to use without a cab attached. That goes for both the XLR out and effects send
I’m pretty amateur / new with using different cabinets and such. If I was to use a single OBC-112 with the terror, this would be at 8ohms right? If I was to use two OBC-112s, would this be 4ohms? How would I go about connecting both cabs to the amp head, would it be a cable into each cab from or one cable into one of the cabs, then another cable from the first cab into the second? (Apologies if these are stupid questions)
No stupid questions... only stupid people who don't ask questions and then blow up their equipment.
You are on the right track...
1 cab is 8 ohms, and 2 cabs together makes 4 ohms.
((((( in tech talk, this is called wiring the cabs in "parallel." 8+8 make 4 ohms. 8+8+8 make ~2.6 ohms. 4+4 (or 8+8+8+8) make 2 ohms. )))))
((((( the opposite is called "series" wiring. That is like 8+8 makes 16 ohms. Or 4+4 makes 8 ohms. I would not worry about that, just an FYI, because pretty much all modern gear is set up for parallel operation and you would not come across series wiring except in some very rare / special circumstance. )))))
Same difference connecting the cabs: two cables out of the amp, one to each speaker - or - one cable out of the amp, and then a cable from speaker 1 to speaker 2.
Bass players call this "daisy chain." As in "I'm going to daisy chain my two cabs together to get a 4 ohm load."
Some amps only have one output and you have to hook the speakers together (daisy chain them). Some cabs only have one input and you would need to hook each one up out of the amp.
You are on the right track...
1 cab is 8 ohms, and 2 cabs together makes 4 ohms.
((((( in tech talk, this is called wiring the cabs in "parallel." 8+8 make 4 ohms. 8+8+8 make ~2.6 ohms. 4+4 (or 8+8+8+8) make 2 ohms. )))))
((((( the opposite is called "series" wiring. That is like 8+8 makes 16 ohms. Or 4+4 makes 8 ohms. I would not worry about that, just an FYI, because pretty much all modern gear is set up for parallel operation and you would not come across series wiring except in some very rare / special circumstance. )))))
Same difference connecting the cabs: two cables out of the amp, one to each speaker - or - one cable out of the amp, and then a cable from speaker 1 to speaker 2.
Bass players call this "daisy chain." As in "I'm going to daisy chain my two cabs together to get a 4 ohm load."
Some amps only have one output and you have to hook the speakers together (daisy chain them). Some cabs only have one input and you would need to hook each one up out of the amp.
I have an Orange Terror Bass 500 (v2) and with mine when using two 8 ohm cabs (I use two Markbass NY121s), in order to run the rig at 4 ohms total, I use one speaker cord from the amp to the first cab and then another cord from the first to the second cab.
Using two cables out of the amp (one to each individual cab) resulted in the amp running at 8 ohms, despite my switching it to 4 ohms on the back of the amp, the first time I used mine. This became obvious to me when I revisited the owner's manual and plugged it in the correct way, as the gain/volume available was far greater then.
That's my experience.
Not doubting your experience, but that makes no sense if it's true. It's just weird, and seems like bad (or minimum really confusing) design.
You set the amp to 4 ohms, and run two 8ohm speaker cabs out of two speaker outputs on the amp that say "min 4 ohm wired in parallel" and the amp runs in 8 ohms. Not even sure how that's possible. And why would they put two speaker outputs on the amp?
I just checked out the manuals for the the entire bass range online... really bad. All the info about speakers says read the "before using your amplifier" section, and then that section says never use a load less than 8 ohms, yet all the bass amps are rated for 4 ohm min. It also talks about the 16 ohm outputs, which none of the bass range has.
The Orange manual provided for my Terror Bass was/is a bit confusing and not entirely specific to that particular amp, as if Orange has one manual to cover their entire range of bass amps. I may be wrong, but the first time I set up my TB with two 8 ohm cabs, I used both of the amp outputs, one to each cab, and set the switch to 4 ohms. I was surprised by how much gain was required to achieve a quite loud but not at all extreme volume. It sounded great but I'd expected much more headroom.
Next time, when I plugged it in the alternate way (as described in my previous post), the difference was obvious - it was much louder with more than enough headroom. I've gigged it this way a number of times since and am very pleased with the amp. If this sounds wrong, well...I could be wrong, or it could be just how Orange does things. I used to own a '73 Norton 850 Commando and there was a whole lot wrong with that thing that the manual didn't explain. And I loved it regardless.
Next time, when I plugged it in the alternate way (as described in my previous post), the difference was obvious - it was much louder with more than enough headroom. I've gigged it this way a number of times since and am very pleased with the amp. If this sounds wrong, well...I could be wrong, or it could be just how Orange does things. I used to own a '73 Norton 850 Commando and there was a whole lot wrong with that thing that the manual didn't explain. And I loved it regardless.
I assume my experience on this subject is less relevant, given I have a v1 Terror head, but I've had no issues connecting two cabs either by running both from the head, or connecting one cab to the other.
Terror manual is hardly to be trusted; there is so much copy-and-paste going on in the Orange manuals, it's impossible to tell which information in there is reliably for the Terror, versus the AD200, versus the Tiny Terror... it's annoying for sure, but thankfully there are resources such as TB to help! Really wish they'd just redo their manuals, and make specific ones for each different offering, but I'm not holding my breath lol
Terror manual is hardly to be trusted; there is so much copy-and-paste going on in the Orange manuals, it's impossible to tell which information in there is reliably for the Terror, versus the AD200, versus the Tiny Terror... it's annoying for sure, but thankfully there are resources such as TB to help! Really wish they'd just redo their manuals, and make specific ones for each different offering, but I'm not holding my breath lol
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