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Ordered Kramer The Duke

Jul 20, 2021
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I ordered myself a new bass today, I haven't been playing bass much this past year or so. Had some hand and arm pain playing so been playing mostly guitar as it's not as aggravating. Well the other day or week or so ago I picked up my Ibanez SR800le put in a new battery and just had a blast jamming, then my hand started hurting. My son has a short scale Squier Jaguar so I tried that. Much better!
So I figured I'd look for a short scale of my own and that's when I found this Kramer The Duke. I was aware of them, I'm a big Kramer fan, have 3 of their guitars from the 80s. So this gets me a short scale and it's a 80's Kramer, win/win lol.
Should be here middle of next week. Anyone have one of these? And if so how do you like it?
I'm kinda stoked about it and if I don't like it I got it from GC, I can return it.
Here's some pics from the ad.
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I used to have a fretless The Duke. It got stolen in a burglary. I would grab another if I came upon a good deal. I recall the pickup being very high output and the tone was pretty unique with it being so close to the bridge. I ran black tape wounds on mine most of the time that I had it.

My verdict: Weird and Fun. One of my favorite parts about it was the case. Sometimes people think you're a trombone player when you show up to a gig.
 
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I ordered myself a new bass today, I haven't been playing bass much this past year or so. Had some hand and arm pain playing so been playing mostly guitar as it's not as aggravating. Well the other day or week or so ago I picked up my Ibanez SR800le put in a new battery and just had a blast jamming, then my hand started hurting. My son has a short scale Squier Jaguar so I tried that. Much better!
So I figured I'd look for a short scale of my own and that's when I found this Kramer The Duke. I was aware of them, I'm a big Kramer fan, have 3 of their guitars from the 80s. So this gets me a short scale and it's a 80's Kramer, win/win lol.
Should be here middle of next week. Anyone have one of these? And if so how do you like it?
I'm kinda stoked about it and if I don't like it I got it from GC, I can return it.
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Yeah, I have one - had it for.... well, quite a while, now. Mine is a left handed one - which were only available in black. Rightys came in a rainbow of colors - which that one seems to have been turned into by a previous owner...:whistle:
Do I like mine? Oh, Hell yes. For the last few years, mine has been my main "practice bass", so it get played a LOT. I have several "American" Kramer basses; the aluminum-necked ones, made in Neptune, New Jersey, when they were a fairly high-dollar, semi-custom bass. But, they were always kind of... idiosyncratic... instruments. All of mine are... well, they don't exactly match the ones in the sales brochures. The people that made them, evidently liked to... experiment. My '78 450B, for instance, does not have the control layout - or the bridge - that the one in the sales brochure does. It wasn't changed by a previous owner; it came from the factory this way. Kramer employees seemed to like to experiment; it's like they came in on a Monday morning, and said "Hey; I've been thinking... how about we try this, and see how it works?" Every one of my Kramer basses - even my Japanese '88 Forum III bass - is different from the sales brochure... Anyhow;
That Duke looks to be a "Deluxe" or "Special" model - as opposed to the "standard" model, with a pretty nice, normal humbucker pickup (I've had one of those, too). That one has a Schaller "Twin-J" pickup, along with Schaller guitar tuners and a Schaller 3D-4 bridge (my favorite bridge). It is supposed to have a 3-way switch, but... I have owned one with only a 2-way switch - like the standard, humbucker model. Like I said; the factory liked to mess around... If that one has the 3-way switch, it should give you: both coils in parallel; one coil (the rear one, which fakes a Jazz Bass pretty well); and both coils in series. However, it might be like mine, which gives me both coils like a humbucker; the rear half like a Jazz Bass; and half of each coil, like a split coil P-Bass pickup. Which is how I run mine, about 95% of the time. And, with a set of DR SFL Legends flat wounds on it? It does sound an awful lot like my '78 Fender P-Bass... Other than that? Well... it is a small bass; 31" scale, and 38" long overall. It is not a light bass, though. The aluminum neck and the mahogany body clocks in at 7.95 lbs. on mine. Some people find them to be badly balanced, and awkward to play; personally? I have no problem with mine. But, Rick basses fit me like a glove, while some people find Ricks very hard to play. You'll have to find out for yourself... Other than that? It is disconcerting to string a Kramer Duke the first time, since everything is backwards, and there's no nut - just a zero fret. But, unless you use ridiculously large gauge strings, they will work just fine with the Schaller guitar tuners. The 45-105 DR Legends on mine were no problem at all. Neither were the short scale 50-105 short scale GHS Boomers it came to me with...
So... bottom line? Yeah, it's a quirky little bass. But, if you can work with it? It's a really cool, quirky little bass. I've had mine for over a decade, now, and... it ain't going anywhere; not as long as I can still play... :cool:
 
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Yeah, I have one - had it for.... well, quite a while, now. Mine is a left handed one - which were only available in black. Rightys came in a rainbow of colors - which that one seems to have been turned into by a previous owner...:whistle:
Do I like mine? Oh, Hell yes. For the last few years, mine has been my main "practice bass", so it get played a LOT. I have several "American" Kramer basses; the aluminum-necked ones, made in Neptune, New Jersey, when they were a fairly high-dollar, semi-custom bass. But, they were always kind of... idiosyncratic... instruments. All of mine are... well, they don't exactly match the ones in the sales brochures. The people that made them, evidently liked to... experiment. My '78 450B, for instance, does not have the control layout - or the bridge - that the one in the sales brochure does. It wasn't changed by a previous owner; it came from the factory this way. Kramer employees seemed to like to experiment; it's like they came in on a Monday morning, and said "Hey; I've been thinking... how about we try this, and see how it works?" Every one of my Kramer basses - even my Japanese '88 Forum III bass - is different from the sales brochure... Anyhow;
That Duke looks to be a "Deluxe" or "Special" model - as opposed to the "standard" model, with a pretty nice, normal humbucker pickup (I've had one of those, too). That one has a Schaller "Twin-J" pickup, along with Schaller guitar tuners and a Schaller 3D-4 bridge (my favorite bridge). It is supposed to have a 3-way switch, but... I have owned one with only a 2-way switch - like the standard, humbucker model. Like I said; the factory liked to mess around... If that one has the 3-way switch, it should give you: both coils in parallel; one coil (the rear one, which fakes a Jazz Bass pretty well); and both coils in series. However, it might be like mine, which gives me both coils like a humbucker; the rear half like a Jazz Bass; and half of each coil, like a split coil P-Bass pickup. Which is how I run mine, about 95% of the time. And, with a set of DR SFL Legends flat wounds on it? It does sound an awful lot like my '78 Fender P-Bass... Other than that? Well... it is a small bass; 31" scale, and 38" long overall. It is not a light bass, though. The aluminum neck and the mahogany body clocks in at 7.95 lbs. on mine. Some people find them to be badly balanced, and awkward to play; personally? I have no problem with mine. But, Rick basses fit me like a glove, while some people find Ricks very hard to play. You'll have to find out for yourself... Other than that? It is disconcerting to string a Kramer Duke the first time, since everything is backwards, and there's no nut - just a zero fret. But, unless you use ridiculously large gauge strings, they will work just fine with the Schaller guitar tuners. The 45-105 DR Legends on mine were no problem at all. Neither were the short scale 50-105 short scale GHS Boomers it came to me with...
So... bottom line? Yeah, it's a quirky little bass. But, if you can work with it? It's a really cool, quirky little bass. I've had mine for over a decade, now, and... it ain't going anywhere; not as long as I can still play... :cool:
Thanks for all that info! This is the first Kramer bass I've bought. Had half a dozen or so of their guitars, still have 3 and tgey are keepers a 84 Pacer Imperial, 87 Baretta and a 89 Pacer Custom ii. I know what you mean about their instruments not all being what the catalog says they should be. They couldn't even decide on a headstock. I've had 4 different headstocks, 5 if you count the lack of one on this.
As for the rainbow graphic on this, it's stock. There's a handful of them on the old Kramer registry, even a version of the graphic on the Pacers which is really cool. Seems odd that they graphics on such a small body but I've seen the rainbow, bent pipes, lightning bolt and my favorite, racing stripes which is kinda tan with orange stripes.
I certainly hope I like mine as much as you like yours.
Weird thing I found out very recently, we ( tge wife and I) rode up to Neptune NJ to visit her brother. My nephew lives in a house about a 1/2 a block from Green Grove rd where the Kramer factory was located. Thought that was cool.
Again thanks for the info.
 
Kramers are by and large great on several levels. I had 3, but not a Duke. The Duke was a Steinberger competitor; I don't know if they are as neck heavy as the regular basses; one thing to check. Also know that the frets, while they were long lived on mine (no issues), the fretboard is ebonite (the stuff bowling balls are made out of. Tough stuff, but if the frets are worn down, a re-fret may not really be possible, without replacing the fretboard with ebony or something.