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Peavey battle: Millennium Plus 5 vs. Cirrus 5

fourstringbliss

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Is a Cirrus 5 a "better" bass than a Millennium Plus 5? What would make you choose one over the other? I know that some of you have owned a Millennium in the past and sold it when you got your Cirrus because the Millennium sat unplayed - why did you play the Cirrus more than the Millennium?

Thanks!
 
This thread needs a visual comparison too.
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Which one is better? Neither, they are equal. It just depends on what features you want in a bass.
Construction wise, I'd say they are equal as far as the quality of the build.
Both are 35" scale but the Millennium feels shorter for some reason. 21 frets (Mil) vs 24 frets (Cir) might be the reason. Both are nice but to me the Millennium is more comfortable.
The Millennium has a string retainer and the Cirrus has an angled headstock. (probably give the edge to the Cirrus there.)
The Millennium is bolt on and the Cirrus is neck through. (Toss up depending on what you like)
The Millennium has a shallow neck (front to back) and the Cirrus is somewhat chunky. They are both nice but I prefer the Millennium's narrow neck.
The hardware is similar except some folks have complained about the rubber knobs on the Cirrus (doesn't bother me)
The bridge (IMO) is far better on the Millennium (Hipshot type A). It's much easier to work with when setting up string height, spacing, and intonation. The Cirrus bridge is a giant PAIN to work with. I don't like the loose string saddles that flop around and fall out if you're not careful. Also the Millennium offers both string through body and bridge, while the Cirrus is string through bridge only. String spacing on both basses is the same btw.
The edge again goes to the Millennium for trussrod access. The Cirrus has the commonly used headstock trussrod access, while the Millennium (because of the bolt on neck) has an easy to access wheel at the body end of the neck. The Millennium is by far the easiest bass I've owned to do a setup on.

Ok, but what about tone you say?
While they both have a somewhat similar tone, (you can tell they are from the same Peavey family) they both have their individual personalities. To me, the sweepable 3 band EQ on the Millennium vs. the fixed 3 band EQ on the Cirrus is a wash. I leave both basses flat and adjust EQ on my amp. If having a sweepable midrange is important, Peavey will sell you the Millennium preamp to put in a Cirrus. I personaly wouldn't bother but that's just me.
The Cirrus would probably be the choice of most folks (just guessing here) because it's two Humbucker soapbar type pickups sounds sort of like a hi-fi active Jazz bass especially when the bridge pickup is favored. Nice focused tone all the way down to low B. Some have said that the Cirrus is lacking in low end but I can't imaging anyone not being able to add enough low end with the active EQ.
The Millennium on the other hand has a J/ neck pickup and a M/M pickup at the bridge. Even though the Millennium also has an 18v preamp, (IMO) it is more traditional sounding than the Cirrus. Think Musicman meets P bass with emphasis on low, low mid growl. IMO opinion both basses have a nice singing high end (not harsh).

So I'd say everything is pretty even with these two basses. I'm playing my Cirrus more these days because I'm primarily playing in church and the polite tones of the Cirrus seem to be a good fit. I think the Cirrus would be best for R&B also. For classic rock, modern country, blues, I'd probably grab the Millennium.

I've considered selling my last Millennium 5 (I used to own two) and get a 2nd Cirrus, because I am having a little problem switching back and forth between the two neck profiles. But everytime I do, I get it out and play it awhile and decide too keep it. Besides that, the resale on the Millennium is so bad that I wouldn't be able to get near the money I'd need for a Cirrus or even get a bass near as good as the Millennium for the money I could sell it for.
 
Is a Cirrus 5 a "better" bass than a Millennium Plus 5? What would make you choose one over the other? I know that some of you have owned a Millennium in the past and sold it when you got your Cirrus because the Millennium sat unplayed - why did you play the Cirrus more than the Millennium?

I had one little unpleasant experience with my Millennium 5+ last week that would not have happened with a Cirrus. My string retainer popped off, ruining one of the screws. Gary Smith at the Guitar Shop in Richardson, TX had me all fixed up within 5 minutes, but it just got me thinking about the Cirrus headstock design. Of course the downside of the Cirrus is no easy truss rod access like on the Millenniums.
 
I had one little unpleasant experience with my Millennium 5+ last week that would not have happened with a Cirrus. My string retainer popped off, ruining one of the screws. Gary Smith at the Guitar Shop in Richardson, TX had me all fixed up within 5 minutes, but it just got me thinking about the Cirrus headstock design. Of course the downside of the Cirrus is no easy truss rod access like on the Millenniums.

How do the headstock designs compare?
 
I had one little unpleasant experience with my Millennium 5+ last week that would not have happened with a Cirrus. My string retainer popped off, ruining one of the screws. Gary Smith at the Guitar Shop in Richardson, TX had me all fixed up within 5 minutes, but it just got me thinking about the Cirrus headstock design. Of course the downside of the Cirrus is no easy truss rod access like on the Millenniums.

Where in North Texas do you live? I live in Flower Mound
 
If we are strictly talking USA models here, than both are 35" scale. I believe that BXP models, both Millenniums and Cirrus' are 34" scale. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The USA Cirrus neckthroughs are all 35" the bolt-on 4 string is the only 34" scale in the equation.

As for a comparison between the two, it kinda turns into a P vs. T type of debate. The Millennium basses seem to have a nice amount of treble while the Millennium is a little warmer and has more sustain.
 
The USA Cirrus neckthroughs are all 35" the bolt-on 4 string is the only 34" scale in the equation.

As for a comparison between the two, it kinda turns into a P vs. T type of debate. The Millennium basses seem to have a nice amount of treble while the Millennium is a little warmer and has more sustain.

I A/B'd my Mill+5 with a Cirrus BXP 5 yesterday. I know the BXP isn't a USA but they have the same pickups and preamp, right? Anyway, the Cirrus was louder and growlier, but the tones weren't that different. Full neck and bridge pickups will of course sound different than on the Mill+5.
 
Because I keep selling my d*** Milllenniums before I can gig with 'em. Takes them out of the equation, don't ya think?

I like the tiltback headstock design on the Cirrus but hate the truss rod access. Check my sig. for details.

Riis

I'll have to let you know how it sounds when I gig with it. I'm just trying to decide whether I should eventually have both a Mill+5 and a Cirrus 5 or if I should eventually sell my Mill+5 to get a Cirrus 5.
 
I A/B'd my Mill+5 with a Cirrus BXP 5 yesterday. I know the BXP isn't a USA but they have the same pickups and preamp, right? Anyway, the Cirrus was louder and growlier, but the tones weren't that different. Full neck and bridge pickups will of course sound different than on the Mill+5.

Same pups, different pre...unless Peavey changed it recently.
 
Same pups, different pre...unless Peavey changed it recently.

Looks like they changed it, although it doesn't specify a whole lot about the pre-amp, other than the +/- 10dB boosts.

Still, mine don't really sound the same. A few similar qualities, but I have no doubt what model I'm hearing.

I kind of wondered about that. I'll have to play an actual
Cirrus before I make up my mind. It's a good thing that I like my Mill+5 so much!
 
:scowl: Now, now.. I think you and I both know, despite how amazing any Cirrus is, that if you sell your Millennium you'll come across a photo of one a week later on TB and wish you had it back.

Yeah, I don't really see them as one being better than the other and neither can really replace or cover tones of the other. Even with the Cirrus, the different lumber configs offer different tones. Any Cirrus with walnut wings is gonna have a nice Ken Smith snap while the alder bodied Cirri are much milder.