Pedals and such

[gsprice696]

What up y'all? Been a while since I've posted, but need some opinion on sound.

Band type: country both new and old, a little southern rock, and country rap.

Current rig: GK 410 cab and Aguilar SC500

A lot of times I just run straight to the amp. I've been out of the scene for a little while and mostly have been playing in my Church's worship band using a multi effect pedal they have there (not the best but does the job, for what I need. However, I'm not back in a regular gigging band (currently doing open mics but paid gigs soon.

Onto the question now. I'm trying to decide between getting an HX Stomp XL or getting just a Cali '76 and pair along with an origin effect Bass Rig pedal for some drive when needed, and a chorus for certain song.

Additionally, we will also be moving away from "beats" to recreating everything acoustically, with a full band. So, I'm wondering if I just spring for the HX Stomp XL to be able to create the big low tones I need to hit hard or go with the pedals. Pedals will run a little more with the addition of a chorus pedal but IMO, still worth it. What do y'all think?

Please give honest advise. Not looking for opinions on what y'all think of new country or anything like that lol. Just asking about sounds.

Thanks in advance!

 

[ebo]

I recently bought a Stomp. Sold a couple pedals already as the stomp covers a lot of ground. I haven’t scratched the surface of its capabilities. Create 3 or 4 good patches, and set up some snapshots, you should be good. Individual analog pedals will probably win the day for most people on TB, but I’m in the camp that the audience won’t really hear the difference and it’s good enough for what I do. And it works well for guitar so one pedalboard and I’m set.

 

[Roland GR 88]

If you’re ok with computers, menus, scrolling and saving then a Stomp is hard to beat for the price.
If you prefer the simplicity of pedals with knob positions you know and trust and only need a few then go with pedals.
Pedals will allow you to buy, swap and sell as you go and can get fun and expensive if you keep at it. Trust me on that.
Resale prices on multi effects can go pretty low but IME the Stomp models generally stay sold which is a pretty strong endorsement for me.

 

[GotGroove]

From a price perspective that stomp XL will cost you about the same as those 3 pedals. Which is fine, as long as you don't need to change your sound mid-show. If you do (or may want to), the stomp would be the most convenient choice.

Also, the stomp has much more to offer than what those 3 pedals can. The only thing the Stomp doesn't have is a synth, but you can go quite far with what it does have. Should you in the future wish to change musical styles, the stomp will still provide, while those 3 pedals alone may be lacking in the end. Not that I'm against increasing your pedalboard size, but I'd rather keep things simple and no more expensive than it has to be.

The downside is learning to use the stomp well. It takes a bit of getting used to and there's a lot of 'dials' you can turn, including those you won't find on the physical originals. This is both a plus and a minus for me. It allows you to completely shape your sound the way you want to, but it comes with a certain complexity you have to dig into. If you have a DAW, you may want to try the free Helix Native trial before deciding.

Soundwise, one with a very, very good ear could hear the difference between a stomp and the 'real' pedals, but in reality, most people won't. Live nobody's going to tell unless they look at your feet.

Hope that helps.
Good luck deciding

 

[gsprice696]

I recently bought a Stomp. Sold a couple pedals already as the stomp covers a lot of ground. I haven’t scratched the surface of its capabilities. Create 3 or 4 good patches, and set up some snapshots, you should be good. Individual analog pedals will probably win the day for most people on TB, but I’m in the camp that the audience won’t really hear the difference and it’s good enough for what I do. And it works well for guitar so one pedalboard and I’m set.

Awesome man! Thanks for the response

 

[moon-bass]

Onto the question now. I'm trying to decide between getting an HX Stomp XL or getting just a Cali '76 and pair along with an origin effect Bass Rig pedal for some drive when needed, and a chorus for certain song.

I went both routes. I have the Stomp XL as well as the Cali and BassRig 64. Honestly can't go wrong either way, but here are my thoughts -

I use the BassRig as a grab and go - it's simple to operate and has all the features that I need. I'm a knob turner at heart, and I love the Fender tone stack.

The Stomp XL is a different beast altogether. I'd definitely recommend the XL over the regular Stomp - you get much more capability wise for not a whole lot more $$$. Both @Roland GR 88 and @ebo had great advice and I can't add much more to that other than to say that I do love my Stomp, but I'm still learning (my own fault - I need to make more of an effort). it sounds great, tons of options and tweakability!

It's nice to have options, but if I had to choose between the two I would go with the Stomp XL. It's more flexible, compact, easy to use, etc.

Hope this helps.

 

[gsprice696]

From a price perspective that stomp XL will cost you about the same as those 3 pedals. Which is fine, as long as you don't need to change your sound mid-show. If you do (or may want to), the stomp would be the most convenient choice.

Also, the stomp has much more to offer than what those 3 pedals can. The only thing the Stomp doesn't have is a synth, but you can go quite far with what it does have. Should you in the future wish to change musical styles, the stomp will still provide, while those 3 pedals alone may be lacking in the end. Not that I'm against increasing your pedalboard size, but I'd rather keep things simple and no more expensive than it has to be.

The downside is learning to use the stomp well. It takes a bit of getting used to and there's a lot of 'dials' you can turn, including those you won't find on the physical originals. This is both a plus and a minus for me. It allows you to completely shape your sound the way you want to, but it comes with a certain complexity you have to dig into. If you have a DAW, you may want to try the free Helix Native trial before deciding.

Soundwise, one with a very, very good ear could hear the difference between a stomp and the 'real' pedals, but in reality, most people won't. Live nobody's going to tell unless they look at your feet.

Hope that helps.
Good luck deciding

Solid feedback. I appreciate it. I'm thinking at first, I'll go with the stomp XL. Plus both of our lead players use them. One uses a helix and the other a stomp. So, they can help me with the leaning curve. Later, I think I'll branch out to the pedals.

 

[gsprice696]

If you’re ok with computers, menus, scrolling and saving then a Stomp is hard to beat for the price.
If you prefer the simplicity of pedals with knob positions you know and trust and only need a few then go with pedals.
Pedals will allow you to buy, swap and sell as you go and can get fun and expensive if you keep at it. Trust me on that.
Resale prices on multi effects can go pretty low but IME the Stomp models generally stay sold which is a pretty strong endorsement for me.

I've noticed they don't resold much and if they do, they aren't going for much less they original price

 

[gregmon79]

What up y'all? Been a while since I've posted, but need some opinion on sound.

Band type: country both new and old, a little southern rock, and country rap.

Current rig: GK 410 cab and Aguilar SC500

A lot of times I just run straight to the amp. I've been out of the scene for a little while and mostly have been playing in my Church's worship band using a multi effect pedal they have there (not the best but does the job, for what I need. However, I'm not back in a regular gigging band (currently doing open mics but paid gigs soon.

Onto the question now. I'm trying to decide between getting an HX Stomp XL or getting just a Cali '76 and pair along with an origin effect Bass Rig pedal for some drive when needed, and a chorus for certain song.

Additionally, we will also be moving away from "beats" to recreating everything acoustically, with a full band. So, I'm wondering if I just spring for the HX Stomp XL to be able to create the big low tones I need to hit hard or go with the pedals. Pedals will run a little more with the addition of a chorus pedal but IMO, still worth it. What do y'all think?

Please give honest advise. Not looking for opinions on what y'all think of new country or anything like that lol. Just asking about sounds.

Thanks in advance!

Honest advice, because you said you need/want a chorus too, I'd get the Stomp. Most of the drives, especially the Timmy model, and the comps are good to great IME. Choruses too.

I still use my fav/preferred OD and dist pedals even having a Stomp/modeler/multi. I'm really picky about OD in particular. But I was quite impressed with the Timmy in the stomp as well as a few others. Dist as well. Fuzz was a slightly different story. There were a couple that were pretty damn nice though. I'm not the biggest comp user but there are a number in there that are quite nice IMO. And the modulation is good to great. Plus, if you ever needed another effect whether that be delay, reverb, a different preamp or EQ sound, IR's, octave, pretty much anything, you'll have it with the stomp.

Origin makes some of the best stuff so if you went that way you'd probably be very happy there too. I'm just thinking the stomp will cover everything in a tidy package with all the added other stuff if you ever needed it.

 

[GotGroove]

Solid feedback. I appreciate it. I'm thinking at first, I'll go with the stomp XL. Plus both of our lead players use them. One uses a helix and the other a stomp. So, they can help me with the leaning curve. Later, I think I'll branch out to the pedals.

If you plan to branch out with or to separate pedals, you may want to consider the normal stomp. Yes, it has less switches, but you can assign them any way you want. So if you can deal with say preset up, snapshot and mute/tuner on the switches, you can save yourself some money and have some room left over on your pedalboard for any extra pedals you may purchase. On the inside the regular stomp and the XL are 100% the same. The only difference is the amount of switches available. Just something to think about.

 

[gsprice696]

Noted and thank you!

Honest advice, because you said you need/want a chorus too, I'd get the Stomp. Most of the drives, especially the Timmy model, and the comps are good to great IME. Choruses too.

I still use my fav/preferred OD and dist pedals even having a Stomp/modeler/multi. I'm really picky about OD in particular. But I was quite impressed with the Timmy in the stomp as well as a few others. Dist as well. Fuzz was a slightly different story. There were a couple that were pretty damn nice though. I'm not the biggest comp user but there are a number in there that are quite nice IMO. And the modulation is good to great. Plus, if you ever needed another effect whether that be delay, reverb, a different preamp or EQ sound, IR's, octave, pretty much anything, you'll have it with the stomp.

Origin makes some of the best stuff so if you went that way you'd probably be very happy there too. I'm just thinking the stomp will cover everything in a tidy package with all the added other stuff if you ever needed it.

So question then... Did you find anything like a Cali '76 comp or the Bass Rig pedal in the stomp that would eliminate the need/want?

 

[gregmon79]

Noted and thank you!

So question then... Did you find anything like a Cali '76 comp or the Bass Rig pedal in the stomp that would eliminate the need/want?

I can't speak for the comp if I'm being 100% honest. I don't think there is a modeler on the planet yet that will do what the Cali 76 does. This is all opinion though. I've never tried the Cali and again, I'm not a comp guy/user. I have used a number of them. Not the Cali. I'm going off of what I've seen many on here have said. I am going off of being a Stomp user since its release as well as some other multi's/modelers as well as a heavy and experienced effects user for years now.

Haven't tried the Bass Rig either. So take that for what it's worth. I simply know the stomp well and I know that the comps are good as are some of the drives. By good I mean damn good IMO. Plus the stomp has plenty of Ampeg models on it so you'll be able to approximate what the Bass Rig is doing. So I guess you can take what I've said with a grain of salt haha since I haven't used an Origin pedal once. I've just seen many testimonials on TB and from some buddies of mine.