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Double Bass Pegs on bass??

#21
Roger Mouton said:
"some small argument being made (one that I'm not really convinced by, but here we are) that they weigh less, and thus improve the sound somewhat."

There may be another thread somewhere about this weight issue. Apologies for hijacking this thread. I briefly discussed weight in an email with Jake at The Bass Spa. We talked about the weight of the endpin and the weight of the tuners and that if they were both lighter the bass could sound better. I have a heavy Gallery Strings end pin on one of my instruments and factory-bass Tyrolean plate tuners.

The last time I was in Jon Peterson's shop (RIP) he had an old Sloan tuner on the bench. I picked it up and was surprised at how heavy it was. I just couldn't imagine the weight of 4 of them on a bass. The ebony shafts of hat peg tuners would certainly reduce a lot of the weight.

So....I'm thinking a carbon fiber end pin, Laborie style possibly, and hat peg tuners would lighten my instrument considerably. As to the sound? If I ever make these changes I'll post the results.
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further complicating the issue is that many of the basses that have "hat pegs" are just decorative, with regular metal tuning shafts.
 
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The particular kind of tuners in the OP are based on the "Viennese" school double bass, a more direct descendant of the violone (as mentioned above): [This invalid link has been removed]

PS: Roger: when you said RIP Jon Peterson's shop -- you did mean the shop and not Jon, I hope... I hope he is still with us (I think he works out of his house in Malibu)
 

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eerbrev said:
further complicating the issue is that many of the basses that have "hat pegs" are just decorative, with regular metal tuning shafts.
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Thanks. I'm aware of those type hat pegs. Some years back there was an argument started about some guy going to the hardware store, buying round, wooden drawer knobs, painting them black, drilling through them and then drilling into the large gear screw on each of the tuners to attach the drawer knobs. Just for the look of them.
 
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LouisF said:
The particular kind of tuners in the OP are based on the "Viennese" school double bass, a more direct descendant of the violone (as mentioned above): [This invalid link has been removed]

PS: Roger: when you said RIP Jon Peterson's shop -- you did mean the shop and not Jon, I hope... I hope he is still with us (I think he works out of his house in Malibu)
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Louis, sadly Jon is no longer with us. He worked out of his house in Buena Park and went to Malibu one or two days a week. There was something up on his website about a memorial. Steve Koscica was to post further details. If you send him your email address he'll put you a list of notification.
 
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Roger Mouton said:
Thanks. I'm aware of those type hat pegs. Some years back there was an argument started about some guy going to the hardware store, buying round, wooden drawer knobs, painting them black, drilling through them and then drilling into the large gear screw on each of the tuners to attach the drawer knobs. Just for the look of them.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound contradictory. I meant it as a "Yes, and ..."
 
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rickwolff said:
My fake hatpegs.

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Looks like the best of both worlds... It's got quite a classy look without the expense of traveling to a luthier to have them installed.

I remember discussing a similar approach a few years ago, where a separate pre-turned piece of ebony or dyed maple (such as an appropriately ornate drawer knob) and fitted to the inner curve of the gear, with a longer screw to replace the one that holds the gear to the shaft. I had to chuckle at the response from one triggered poster, and when I shared the posts with a few other bassists I know, they chuckled even harder...

I saw a set like yours on a German site (strangely, not dedicated solely to musical instruments, but sold a variety of stuff). I emailed them and they replied that they were sold out. I ended up getting some Rubner ebony hatpeg tuners for both my ply and carved. I kind of wish I'd gone with rosewood instead of ebony for the ply.
 

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