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Permanent series jazz wiring

wait, your diagrams are things of beauty! how do you do it in paint? how do you get straight, regular lines and boxes, all consistent, regular sizes and spacings?

I paste in blank pots/switches (usually by eyeballing it), and use the line tool to draw in the wires. If you don't draw a line straight, you can tweak it until it is. If there are a bunch of things going on, I will copy and paste segments to match spacings in different areas. Other than that, the pencil and eraser tools are used a lot.
 
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I paste in blank pots/switches (usually by eyeballing it), and use the line tool to draw in the wires.
damn dude, i thought you were using some slick electronics drafting program that snapped to grid lines and squared everything up, maybe with prefab icons for various components Invalid Link Removed
 
You need to consider how the overall DC resistance of the pickups interacts with the tone capacitor to establish the cut-off frequency of the tone control.

For simplicity, let's ignore the parallel resistance of the volume pots and assume both pickups have the same DC resistance, R.

In parallel, with both pickups on, the overall DC resistance in the tone circuit is R/2. In series it is 2R. The higher resistance of the series wiring will lower the cut-off of the tone circuit by about 2 octaves compared to both pups on in parallel or by 1 octave compared to one or the other soloed.

I think if I was installing a series/parallel option I would consider using a 3DPT switch to simultaneously switch in a smaller tone cap such that the cut-off of the tone control is maintained at something more useful than just a 'dub/mud' option.

On a related note, and as alluded to by @line6man, a volume pot wired 'jazz-style' is more interactive in the way it changes the cut-off frequency of the tone control (largely for the same reasons given above - change in DC resistance) than a volume pot wired 'P-style'. Neither is right or wrong, just something to bear in mind. Personally I like the flexibility of the J-wiring, and of course when everything is dimed it makes no difference.
 
the problem with that is the magic setting that gives you "one pickup just nudged by the other one" tends to change depending on what rig you use, i guess because of differing impedance loads of what you plug into first. with a set resistor you might get the perfect blend in one setting and a plain "two pickups" sound in another.
The thought still has me intrigued with just two knobs. Since I will mostly want the parallel wiring as just a second option, it is okay if the parallel tone isn't perfect. If I could emulate the slightly backed off bridge volume with a resistor, I would at least have the option? I was just studying a Jazz wiring diagram. It looks like all I would need to do would be put a resistor between the push pull pot and the black wire on the bridge pickup. Not sure if it is that simple. I do realize that what I am thinking about isn't "in the box" at all. I'd like the simplicity of a Precision in my Jazz. Mostly it is going to stay in the series position. I can't believe just how much better my B string sounds in series. If my idea of using a push/pull pot with a fixed resistor on the bridge pickup won't work at all, that's okay.

Hey, maybe I will leave it wired like it is and put the push/pull pot in and when I add the two knob control plate, simply isolate the second volume inside the control cavity, but leave it intact! That would for all practical purpose, give me the result I am seeking! One volume, one tone, two sounds.
 
If I could emulate the slightly backed off bridge volume with a resistor, I would at least have the option?
That's my point, it would be a crapshoot whether you would get that sound from one amp to the next.

So yours is a 5-string passive jazz? I retract my earlier statement, those things sound way better series! The anemic B is fixed and its just stronger and fuller all around.

I think you should be the first to try my new idea with the two tones :)

That way, if you roll one tone back a little you'll get something more like that "slightly backed off pickup" sound, but still have the low end boost from series.
 
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Mine is a 2014 Passive American Standard Jazz V. My first five string. I used to always play Jazz and switched to Precision a while back. A Jazz V came available locally at a music store and I picked it up. After trying suggestions to just attach the white and black wires to see if I'd like it, I was blown away. My bass came alive.
 
I did start putting in the push/pull pot two days ago, but put it on hold when I realized the pot was sloppy in the larger hole of the Jazz control plate. I also needed an additional nut for it to lower it into the cavity a little more because it would be way too high. That still might be the route I go. I just need to shore up the smaller diameter shaft on the DiMarzio pot.
 
Looks good to me- I'll have to try this sometime! When I owned a Danelectro Baritone I remember briefly wondering what a Jazz or even Ric would sound like wired like that. I think the Danelectros used smaller tone capacitors- .022uf IIRC with 1Meg Tone pots (and 100K Volumes). It'd be interesting to mess around with those values to get different roll-off frequencies if you weren't going to have a "stock Jazz" setting.
 
I did start putting in the push/pull pot two days ago, but put it on hold when I realized the pot was sloppy in the larger hole of the Jazz control plate. I also needed an additional nut for it to lower it into the cavity a little more because it would be way too high. That still might be the route I go. I just need to shore up the smaller diameter shaft on the DiMarzio pot.
You can also get little plastic adaptors to make smaller pots fit larger holes- Pot Adapter Bushings | Allparts.com I swear I had found a cheaper place though. When I first went mod crazy with push/pull pots years ago I used to build up little rings out of cut electrical tape- the bushings are definitely a much more elegant solution and handy to have around. Or you can buy an import Jazz plate that already has the correct sized holes (I feel like I have had a couple Squiers that required reaming when I put in CTS pots for example).
 
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The Scheme-it schematic drawing web app at Digikey is pretty cool. Invalid Link Removed I just started playing with it. It's geared toward schematics, not picture-like wiring diagrams, but if you played with the "Diagram symbols" tab you might be able to use it for those kind of pictures.

For example here are two schematics I drew with it, one is supposed to be standard jazz bass parallel, and the other to be Walter's version of series wiring (one of the pots is "upside-down" for symmetry).

Parallel:
jazz-bass-parallel.png



Series:
jazz-bass-series-walterw.png
 
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You can also get little plastic adaptors to make smaller pots fit larger holes- Pot Adapter Bushings | Allparts.com
yep; or, while you're on that site just get their bourns push-pull pot, which is very high quality and has a full-sized shaft :)

still, if you have the pot already, just put the second nut behind it to keep it from sticking up too high, center it up in the hole as best you can and tighten it down, it'll be fine.
 
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Just finished putting in the push/pull knob. I went ahead and wired it the standard way with three knobs so I have both options. The down position is series because that is where it will live most of the time. I appreciate the help I've received here in the process.
 
anyway, here it is, gang!

series, master volume and individual tones, with each tone only affecting its own pickup.

(@sunbeast, @honeyiscool, @line6man please check my work :))

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for old time's sake i even used the same colors and the same stupid microsoft paint program from my first series diagram to do it (wow, what a steaming turd of an art app that is!)

i tested this on a goofy cort steinberger copy with a PJ setup and terrible pickups, so i haven't really heard it at its best with a proper jazz bass but i know the principle works.

i could tell that using .05μF caps definitely changed the sound when i turned one down but it still had kind of a "two pickups" tone; going to .1μF made dumping a tone sound much more like the other pickup by itself, but it still kept the series boost on the very low end.

the trade off of the .1 caps is that if you want to actually roll the tone down on the entire signal by dropping both tone knobs, it gets really dark.

(edit: wait, maybe not! i wasn't looking at it right, but when both tones are turned down, that puts the two caps in series too! that means the capacitance halves, so the two .1 caps become an .05, which is not so bad.)
Sorry, I was looking at this again, but am I correct in thinking that the ground connected to the bridge tone isn't actually connecting anything? It's just the pot casing on one side leading to the ground.
 
Sorry, I was looking at this again, but am I correct in thinking that the ground connected to the bridge tone isn't actually connecting anything? It's just the pot casing on one side leading to the ground.
Right; the pot case is grounded because pot cases should be grounded, that's all.
 
Took my Jazz V to a jam in Branson last night. I played with it in series. Wow!! A couple times, I switched to parallel and switched right back. It makes me wonder why a Jazz would ever be wired parallel. At least I did wire it with both options, but........
 
Well, in the Jazz bass shielding tutorial that's stickied, it looks like he deliberately did not attach the pot cases to ground, so now I'm just confused.
on a normal jazz bass the question is moot, the pot cases are already grounded by virtue of being all bolted to the same metal plate with the output jack.
 
Took my Jazz V to a jam in Branson last night. I played with it in series. Wow!! A couple times, I switched to parallel and switched right back. It makes me wonder why a Jazz would ever be wired parallel. At least I did wire it with both options, but........
i'm telling ya, my new variation might be just the ticket :)

you can emphasize one pickup or the other while still always keeping that overall series low end boost...
 
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