Even though the Phil Jones BP/200 can amplify a 16 hz tone I've never owned a cabinet that would extend that low. I suppose that one of Phil's mega cabinets might get there. The C8 and C9 will get you close
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Double Bass Phil Jones BP-200
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Even though the Phil Jones BP/200 can amplify a 16 hz tone I've never owned a cabinet that would extend that low. I suppose that one of Phil's mega cabinets might get there. The C8 and C9 will get you close
I know that 16 Hz is more body massage than an audible frequency.
Even if used with an organ.
I just wanted to show that here are instruments that can produce frequencies in that range.
Weather this is useful is another question.
I once tried a 6 dB/Oct. high pass with my bass and found a setting around 100 to 120 Hz useful for the bass. with a 12 dB/oct. it would be lower, somewhere between 50 and 80 Hz, I assume.
So no lowest frequency speakers needed over here.
My Genz Benz Focus T112 is very nice with the Shuttle 3.0. The 10T from the combo is a bit mid aggressive and misses a bit of lows. A 15“ is too much for my taste.
Even if used with an organ.
I just wanted to show that here are instruments that can produce frequencies in that range.
Weather this is useful is another question.
I once tried a 6 dB/Oct. high pass with my bass and found a setting around 100 to 120 Hz useful for the bass. with a 12 dB/oct. it would be lower, somewhere between 50 and 80 Hz, I assume.
So no lowest frequency speakers needed over here.
My Genz Benz Focus T112 is very nice with the Shuttle 3.0. The 10T from the combo is a bit mid aggressive and misses a bit of lows. A 15“ is too much for my taste.
Thank you for posting the update, i'll be picking up a MAS 16 (not powered) this Monday, pairing it with a Magellan 350. It's my first foray into cabs like these. The Traynor is on my Radar too, I want to compare it with the Magellan. The DI on the magellan is so nice.
Cool, happy NCD in advance! They are nice cabs, I'm sure it will sound great with the Magellan. As I'm sure you've read, if you really want to get the most out of a HPF and probably a notch filter are super helpful.
I'm back. What is an HPF? I don't know what most of these abbreviations mean. You know me, I like things simple. I'm looking for something as a back-up for my AI Clarus whenever it dies. It was serviced for the 3rd time Shortly before Rick Jones passed. I use it with a little GK speaker(maybe 12 inch?) & full circle without a pre amp. I use a 12 inch Raezer's Edge speaker for electric bass; I never play loud enough BG gigs to need a big rig. It all sounds great & it's all I need. I have a PJ double 4 which is good for upright. I wonder if the Phil Jones BP200 would be a good choice.
This from "Church Production" website:
"In fact, recent sound analysis indicates that some pipe organs are capable of producing frequencies as low as 3.5 Hz with peaks at 6 Hz."
HPF is an abbreviation for "High Pass Filter". Most pickups put out frequencies that are lower/more fundamental-heavy than we actually hear acoustically from just an acoustic bass. There is a physics-heavy explanation for this, but it's not needed; just think about how amplified bass often sounds too bottom heavy when things get loud and you'll know what I mean. A HPF rolls off the lows below whatever frequency you set it at, so you can dial out the mud and go easier on your speakers by letting them use their energy reproducing the frequencies you actually want to hear and rolling off the ones you don't. Fortunately for you, you live in the vicinity of someone who has an extra one lying around that you can try any time you want! Just shoot me a text if you want to borrow it.
I only have Phil Jones combos, so I couldn't say if the head alone would be the kind of sound that you are looking for. But you are welcome to stop by and try the combos and see if that sound works for your bass.
Thanks, I've tried one of your combos & I have a Double 4 which I like for lots of situations. I'm just interested in a small head similar to the AI amps which we can't get now. I might try to get whatever Gollier comes up with. I'm pretty sure I spoke with Rick Jones a day or 2 before he died. Wow.
The manual for this amp says it has a "subsonic filter to reduce loudspeaker cone motion."
Sounds like a HPF to me.
Just because the frequency response goes down to 16Hz, doesn't mean it lacks a HPF. That may be 16Hz at minus 60db -- or some number.
I just got one of these to use as a back-up / practice amp.
Really cool little unit.
Sounds like a HPF to me.
Just because the frequency response goes down to 16Hz, doesn't mean it lacks a HPF. That may be 16Hz at minus 60db -- or some number.
I just got one of these to use as a back-up / practice amp.
Really cool little unit.
One thing to consider about both Phil Jones and Traynor. If you look closely at their manuals you'll see that their rated at 4 ohms not 8 so if you're intending to use a 8 ohm speaker cabinet it’s really a 120 watt amplifier not a 200 watt. Just my take
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