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Play for free, huh? Not cool!

i specifically said cover band scene. we gets paid. i’m not into the original scene much, but there are a few musical successes from here... Missy Elliott, Mae, Last Bison, Pharrell Williams, Timbaland, and others
Not to mention the individual musicians who have gone on to play nationally with well known artists. The Wooten Brothers. Gordon Banks. James Genus. Karen Briggs and others. Nobody said the area was a music hub like the big cities. The area does have a bustling music scene and there are some really good bands here.
 
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...I can't tell you how many bands I know that don't have one song from the 21st Century (that's 19 years, folks)
Dude, seriously, never heard of Missy Elliot or Pharrell Williams?
I don't follow their music but they are far more famous than likely any bass player- possibly in all of eternity.
No.........never heard of any of those, sorry.....Im not into rap

pretty much goes hand in hand with my post above....I didnt like disco back in the day, but I knew who Donna Summer and Rick James were back in da day and I was aware of their music and its impact.......Not knowing who Missy Elliot is for the 00s and Pharrell Williams, whos been chart relevent for two decades as performer or producer, just proves that some folks just want to stay in boxes
 
Look, all of this talk about working musicians being disrespected by us amateurs, who play for free because we love it, and furthermore, that we actually help cause them to not get paid by contributing to the devaluation of music, is avoiding the fact that change is inevitable. Being a Farrier used to be a great job, loaded with potential and opportunity...until someone came along and invented automobiles.

You can call this an apples to oranges example, but the bottom line is that music, for a variety of reasons (not just us amateurs 'ruining it' for the pros), has become devalued. Musicians are no longer 'the &*%#', like they used to be, back in the 70s and 80s, and even the 90s. As a result, making music as a career, has become much more difficult. Deal with it.

And before you say, that this is easy for me to say, since I'm not a professional musician, know that I am dealing with the exact same thing in my profession. I work as a post-production editor in television, and over the past couple of decades, it is becoming harder and harder to get this kind of specialized work and be well paid for it. Now-a-days, people can shoot and edit entire films on their phones, if they so choose. Almost anyone can do it...perhaps not as well as 'pros', like me, but employers and the public don't care. People are comfortable watching crap quality videos on phone screens. And so it goes.

Thus, my work has become devalued, but I never blame anyone for causing this devaluation. Things simply change, and sometimes your profession suffers.

Make no mistake, I personally value music VERY highly, and even though I am a hobbyist playing in original bands for no pay, but for the joy of doing it, doesn't mean that my bands don't, at least, work hard at trying to sound good and be tight and not disrespect the craft of music.

Just my .05 cents. I would love it if working musicians all got paid well, but things change.
 
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