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Please help ID this Fender stack.
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billfitzmaurice
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Not enough info in the shot for me, seeing as he is playing bass, my guess would be a silverface Bassman. The cab does look shallow though, maybe a Showman?
With further research I believe the stack is a Fender Bassman 100 w/ the matching 4x12.
I just ordered the head off of Guitar Center's used website which is rated for 4ohms and I'm going to run it through an Ampeg 810 like Nick (from picture above) did this past weekend while headlining Leeds and Reading festivals.
I'll report back with a review when it comes in next week.
I just ordered the head off of Guitar Center's used website which is rated for 4ohms and I'm going to run it through an Ampeg 810 like Nick (from picture above) did this past weekend while headlining Leeds and Reading festivals.
I'll report back with a review when it comes in next week.
Probably either the 100 or a 135, they looked the same. My drummer has a 100, not a bad head, you probably got ripped off through GC though in terms of price. They like to over value, well everything really.
The cab may be a 4x12, but the 4x12 that went with these was angled on the interior, and not very good for bass. I had one for a while, used it mostly for furniture. It was ok at low volume but didn't tolerate bass well. If he's playing bass through the bassman he might beusing the 2x15 cab that also came with these heads. From what I've read, that 2x15 was also not a very well designed cab for bass, it was too shallow to get good bass response if I remember correctly.
If you're playing it with an 8x10 I think you'll get a decent sound out of it. I've played my drummers with my 8x10 and it sounded pretty decent. Not as good as other heads I've played in terms of getting the tone I like, but I've heard worse.
The cab may be a 4x12, but the 4x12 that went with these was angled on the interior, and not very good for bass. I had one for a while, used it mostly for furniture. It was ok at low volume but didn't tolerate bass well. If he's playing bass through the bassman he might beusing the 2x15 cab that also came with these heads. From what I've read, that 2x15 was also not a very well designed cab for bass, it was too shallow to get good bass response if I remember correctly.
If you're playing it with an 8x10 I think you'll get a decent sound out of it. I've played my drummers with my 8x10 and it sounded pretty decent. Not as good as other heads I've played in terms of getting the tone I like, but I've heard worse.
When I returned to playing bass in the late 80's I acquired a Bassman 100 head to power a Bassman 2 x 15 cabinet I had since the 70's. The 2 pieces stacked looked exactly like what the OP has pictured. I still have some 35 mil pix somewhere...
...anyway, it sounded good, when eq & compressor/limiter stomp boxes were used. Eventually I sold the cabinet (too big/heavy to haul) & retired the Bassman 100. But I still have it...sometimes drag it out when I need a realllllly clean guitar sound. But for bass, at this point I'd consider it an antique...
...anyway, it sounded good, when eq & compressor/limiter stomp boxes were used. Eventually I sold the cabinet (too big/heavy to haul) & retired the Bassman 100. But I still have it...sometimes drag it out when I need a realllllly clean guitar sound. But for bass, at this point I'd consider it an antique...
Fender Bassman?
Thank you
Looks like a Bandmaster cab, could be a BandMaster hgead or just about anyother Fender head from back in the 60's
Definitely not 60s, it's a master volume silverface, which means it's at the oldest an early 70s. I'm pretty sure it's a bassman, because it has the separate master volume control. If it was a bandmaster, it's 50 watts, and the cab would be a 2x12. If it is a bassman, the cab looks to be only slightly wider than the head front to back, which makes me think it could be the 2x15. My bassman 100 4x12 was really deep, but I never had the bassman head on top of it for comparison. It was a decent amount deeper than my V4 which is bigger than the bassman.
Not a silver face, I see no blue around the edges or a logo(course I'm legally blind so I'm not going to argue if you say you see blue) also the Bassman Logo in the right corner was pretty large and prominent and I don't see anything like that sticking out from behind the palyer. Its really hard to discern the knob/plug configuration but it looks like Jack Jack three knobs jack jack and three or possibly four knobs which could be the Bassman or the Bandmaster config .Also, the cab has the logo in the top left corner, and is a stacked speaker config, leading me to think its 2X12 not 2X15. I played thru a Bandmaster for years and the cab sure looks Bandmaster to me. The head is just too hard to nail down, but actually the Bassman wasn't all that popular with bass players The Bandmaster was. Course, in the long shot the head does seem long enough to be a Super Bassman (100 or 135). The Bandmaster was made through 75 and yhje Bassman through the early 80's, but I still think it is the Bandmaster
Yeah, when I blew the second photo up, I could see the "silver". They weren't chrome, more like a brushed aluminium. Still can't make out the knob count....I'm going to have to concede to the Bassman crowd, The cab on the bassmans were 13" deep and like 18' deep. The heads on the bassman were either 9 1/2" or 12" inches or so. The head on a Bandmaster was only 7 1/2" or 8" deep. the cab on the Bandmaster was 13" also, but the narrower Bandmaster head would have plenty of room left over on top of any of these cabs. The Bassman would almost have the same foot print, so it would appear that its a Bassman head on top of either cab and probably a bassman cab.
I'd think between $1500 and $2000. Maybe more. I know more about the price of old axes than old amps.
Maybe $500ish. Silver face amps are a dime a dozen, blackface amps are worth much more, but the bassman 100 is a few circuit revisions away from that. My bassman 70 was $200 and I sold it for like $350. I think my drummer paid around $3-400 for his bassman 100. This was all within the last few years.
That's not bad actually. I checked with my drummer last night, he paid $300 (through craigslist) but he felt like he got a pretty good deal.
Greetings from the North,
That is a 1974 Fender Bassman 100 head with a Bassman 412. Back in the day I bought one new with two Fender Bassman 412's. Returned the Bassman 100 head and traded it for a SVT since the 100 was lacking in enough watts to push both cabs. Alot of people will slam the 412 but my rig sounded great. I still have one of the cabs.
Rezdog
That is a 1974 Fender Bassman 100 head with a Bassman 412. Back in the day I bought one new with two Fender Bassman 412's. Returned the Bassman 100 head and traded it for a SVT since the 100 was lacking in enough watts to push both cabs. Alot of people will slam the 412 but my rig sounded great. I still have one of the cabs.
Rezdog
