nope, every time v7 was writen it was amp, but i get why you thought i was mentioning bass
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Please help me choose/find firs amp
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Don't get the 110. Almost nowhere that you can play it outside of your bedroom. A 210 would be a good choice because you can usually play small and medium-sized venues with a single 210 cab and 250 or more watts into the internal speakers if it's a combo and any amp you get should handle a 4Ω load. If you don't want a 210 then opt for the 115. You may still need to get a second 115 cab for large and outdoor venues. A 112 will handle a small venue just fine but not usually the medium-sized venues. Two 12" speakers with a 500 or 800-watt amp to drive them would do the trick though certainly for small and medium-sized venues and probably for most large venues too. You might have trouble with venues that have a long room as long rooms eat sound. A 410 will generally handle that type of room better.
If choosing a combo, the Ampeg RB210 is a 210 combo puts out 250-watts to it's internal 2x10"speakers and when you hook up a second 8Ω cabinet, that puts a 4Ω load on the amp and it will put out another 250-watts into that second speaker cab. Add the extra 210 cab when playing large or outdoor venues. That makes for a modular rig where you only need to bring one of the 210's for most of your gigs. and only bring out two of the 210's to the big venues
If the Ampeg RB210 is not to your liking, you should look at the Fender Rumble 500. It's also a 500-watts rms into 4Ω amp but it delivers 350-watts to its 2x10" internal speakers. With a second 8Ω cab plugged in, it will deliver 250-watts rms to each cab for the full 500-watts. Both of these are modular systems with at least an initial upgrade path to a second 210 cab. That will give you a giggable option with just the internal speaker for small and medium venues, while adding a second 210 cab turns that rig into a de facto 500-watt 410 rig, which you can use just about anywhere for the larger and outdoor venues.
Problem with either of them is you have to like their inherent voicing because you can't really EQ it out. So you need to like the Ampeg sound for the Ampeg option or the Fender sound for the Rumble option. Their respective sounds are pretty well baked in and hard to get around if your not happy with the one you bought. When you decide you really want an 800-watt amp, you may need to upgrade both amp and get better cabs to handle the power. Looks like the Ampeg says the PF-210 cab handles 450-watts and Fender says its Rumble 210 cab handles 350-watts.
Personally I like having separates because I can upgrade amp or cabs as needed without needing to haul around an amp I'm not using that is built into a cab I need to use. Or maybe I want to keep using the amp but want speaker cabs with a different sound to them - can't really take the amp out of either of those combos. Nonetheless going with a 210 to start and adding a second one when needed for larger or outdoor venues is a good strategy.
I unfortunately went for my DNS-410 by DNA first, found out small venues wouldn't let me bring it in, and ended up buying a 210 to play the small and medium-sized venues. In the interim I got a 112 for the small venues and bought a second one for the medium sized venues so I wouldn't have to bring my 410, which is about 20-pounds heavier than bringing 2x112's. Still used if for large and outdoor venues. After I bought my DNS-210 in 2019 I was pleasantly surprised to find that it was all I needed for all of my indoor venues small to large.
It's an unusual 210 though as it handles 700-watts rms and gets crazy loud. And of course, they are no longer made. DNA had to close it's doors in January of 2023 because it couldn't get the parts needed to build its amps and cabs as they were not all commonly available parts and one of the amp parts they used was only made by one company who went out of business, so the part was no longer available. Unfortunately it went the way of a number of other businesses thanks to the Covid-19 supply problems. It was a boutique company that just didn't couldn't hold on any longer.
If you decide to go into separates, there are a number of excellent manufacturers still making some great products. I'd take a close look at Mesa's line of bass gear because it is excellent gear and the designer of Mesa's Subway line (@agedhorse is an active member of Talkbass, who is very generous with his time and knowledge. Genzler, MarkBass, Aquilar, GK, and numerous others that don't spring to mind right now also offer what I call "Pro-level gear". By the way, stay away from GK's "Backline" series. It's the bottom of GK's offerings and in my experience is nowhere near Pro-level gear. I had used some excellent GK gear in 1997 but when I bought their Backline amp and cab in 2006 I was terribly disappointed. Their better grade gear is definitely worth looking at though.
i wouldn't recommend a 110 if you're playing punk.
when i started playing, i played punk, hard rock and metal. if you're playing with a loud guitar player and/or a hard-hitting drummer, you'll need a lot of watts and a lot of speaker. at 600 watts with a 118, you could barely hear me. the drummer was always asking me to turn up, but there was no more. i ended up with a 1000 watt head and added a 210 to my 118, and it was enough... the 210 by itself? no one could hear me at all with that hard-hitting drummer and loud punk rock guitar. a 110 with punk rock? no one will even know if your amp is on or not.
to be fair, i prefer to play clean - turning the gain up so there's some overdrive might help.
when i started playing, i played punk, hard rock and metal. if you're playing with a loud guitar player and/or a hard-hitting drummer, you'll need a lot of watts and a lot of speaker. at 600 watts with a 118, you could barely hear me. the drummer was always asking me to turn up, but there was no more. i ended up with a 1000 watt head and added a 210 to my 118, and it was enough... the 210 by itself? no one could hear me at all with that hard-hitting drummer and loud punk rock guitar. a 110 with punk rock? no one will even know if your amp is on or not.
to be fair, i prefer to play clean - turning the gain up so there's some overdrive might help.
My first bass amp was a peavey 160. I played in a 5 Piece rock band. It was actually not bad for the money and I had it for many many years as a practice amp when.. I upgraded to a peavey firebass 700 and found a 410 cab with a 15 bottom cab.. I still use the cabs but the peavey gave out A few years ago.. now I have a Stewart world Power amp 2100.. It’s a beast but it’s a blast to play with 410’s and a 18” bi-amped. Can’t go wrong with good practice amp!..
If you can find an old Peavey combo , they can be picked up pretty cheap and they are every bit of 300 watts rms. And don’t sound all that bad! Peavey was good about stating they’re actual RMS vs Peak wattage as many manufacturers claim. I have a Bugarea w 1 12” they advertised it at 1000 watts.. My guess is it’s about 75watts rms watts
. great sounding little practice amp until you add a drummer..my house has a lot of steps and i would have to haul it from here to college, so yeah
only used ones in my country are those listed sadlyIf you can find an old Peavey combo , they can be picked up pretty cheap and they are every bit of 300 watts rms. And don’t sound all that bad! Peavey was good about stating they’re actual RMS vs Peak wattage as many manufacturers claim. I have a Bugarea w 1 12” they advertised it at 1000 watts.. My guess is it’s about 75watts rms watts
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i would prefer, i dont know why they draw me more
they go for around 800€ is that good price?
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It is a difficult decision. Good to do your homework like you are. I’ve gone on road trips to music retailers that had a good selection to try. I’ve even taken trains and busses. Just saying.
I thought the TNT was pretty much a no-brainer at 100€, but at 200€, I'm not as enthusiastic, especially considering you want it to be a long-term investment. Also, it might not still be available when you're ready to actually buy. Of what you have listed there, I'd go with the Rocket Bass. It's a rocking amp and you can get an extension cab if you need still more volume. I would vote a definite no on the Katana stuff my own self, but that's a personal preference.
That said, used gear is almost always a better value. While you accumulate your nest egg, keep an eye on what equipment might be available to you in the used marketplace. If you're patient, you might be able to score something better than the TNT for the same scratch.
That said, used gear is almost always a better value. While you accumulate your nest egg, keep an eye on what equipment might be available to you in the used marketplace. If you're patient, you might be able to score something better than the TNT for the same scratch.
no care, no licence, school is priority and they are killing us and i have a lot to do on side with school, so furthest i can go that has any inventory is one hour car drive with my dad when we go pick up my brother from college. Cant wait for next year and collage and big city
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not many things since dead of yu rock here sadly, this is a lot that i acutally found, other stuff are 1000+€ or junk tbh
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