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POG2 or Pitchfactor?

I have searched through the forum but they didn't compare EHX POG2 and Eventide Pitchfactor face to face.

So now I have to choose between them: POG2 at more than $300 and Pitchfactor at $490.

Price-wise, pog2 is better (NOT cheap, still!), but pitchfactor is muuuuuuuuuuch better on the function side.

Basically I want a harmonizer/octaver so can I get hold of some comment/advice from any owner?


Thanks!

Leon
 
If it helps, your prices are off. POG2s can be had new for $266 shipped on eBay any day of the week. Pitchfactors can also be had in the lower $400s if you talk to a salesperson at either a store or through an online dealer. So the POG2 is a good deal cheaper. I'm in the same spot otherwise though as I'd like one or the other. The Pitchfactor obviously has tons more options than the POG2. The thing is figuring out if you'll use those other options enough to make the extra money/size worth it. The POG2 apparently tracked a bit better on fast polyphonic parts according to someone who owned both on TheGearPage, but the Pitchfactor is upgradable, so that's something that can be improved in the software (and may have been already as there was a software update since the time that comparison was made).

What I'd still like to hear is a head-to-head comparison of the octave up tones on both.
 
I've played both for an extended period of time in various shops. As far as sound quality and features, the pitchfactor wins all day and twice on sundays. It could take months if not years to fully appreciate all the features and possibilities on the pitchfactor; it does everything the POG2 does with more even more tweakability options. The POG2 doesn't sound as natural and has an ever so slight delay between hitting note and the note sounding.

However, the POG2 is MUCH easier to use and MUCH easier to adjust on the fly. With the Pitchfactor you will have to spend hours (or maybe days) tweaking the knobs to perfect one setting and changing settings live without an expression pedal would be painful if not impossible. So to the cost of the pitchfactor you should also add on the cost of an expression pedal.

In summary, if you have time to program multiple settings and have the extra coin the Pitchfactor is the way to go. If ease of use is a concern, stear clear of the Pitchfactor.
 
If you really want harmonics, why not look into a HOG. Also has expression input.



The HOG is mighty cool, but the Pitchfactor seems to do it in- it's smaller (far smaller and cheaper if you include the preset pedal) and still has more features and expandability.
 
I am glad that there is someone in the similar spot!

Bryan, than you for the information, and I saw the prices on ebay too. The difference of the price between pog2 and pitchfactor still applies. But I think the pitchfactor can be more friendly now.

HOG is great, but I think it is... huge... well, maybe I will have a look at it. But I simply prefer EVENTIDE brand perhaps? lol

Anyway, thanks for the advice and let's wait for any owner of POG2 and pitchfactor and see what they think.
 
I have a harmonizer/octave up pedal that I have thought about looking into upgrading to add some functionality. The POG looks great for the multiple octaves. The HOG looks great for the harmonies and octaves, but the one that really turned my head was the Pitchfactor. It appears to do most of what the others can do, but more with the delay and some of the other features.
 
Holy smokes - a thread that has morphed enough for me to be able to really help with!

I own both the HOG and the Pitchfactor:

HOGvsPitchfactor.jpg


Size-wise the Pitchfactor is much smaller, however, it's tough to use live without a MIDI board, so it's total footprint could end up about the same size once I get that in.

Sound-wise I think there's no comparison - the Pitchfactor wins hands down (certainly in regards to everything for which I used to use the HOG). The only issue I have is that there's no dry out, so you can't split wet/dry between amps, which means buying an AB+Y pedal.
If people would like, I could do direct sound comparisons between the two (though it will take me 'til at least the end of the evening to get that sorted). Just let me know.
 
Yeah I got the pitchfactor in the end! I think the Eventide Pitchfactor is more a guitar Sythesizer than an effect box!

Of course all the equipment mentioned above are good. So if you have any idea on how to tweak it to make the box unique, please let us know!
 
Wish it did that wonderfully simple freeze function that the HOG can do.

This is the kicker for me, I can't give it up. The dry and effected out's a big + for the HOG as well, and therefor mine isn't going anywhere. The Pitchfactor looks pretty damn cool, but Im very happy with the HOG, and can replicate some of the Pitchfactor's functions with the HOG + MP201 into the expression input for "harmodulator" etc. From what Ive heard, I agree that the Pitchfactor probably has a better tone.
 
What are you waiting for! xD bring the GAS!

Sounds good - I'll get my setup together and have some clips by later this evening (I have a couple of functions to attend first).

Regarding the sample and hold on the HOG - I do wish that the Pitchfactor had something similar, but the one on the HOG didn't function well enough for me to use live, so even though I thought it was a cool idea, I never ended up using it. The dry out though, THAT I miss VERY much.
 
Sounds good - I'll get my setup together and have some clips by later this evening (I have a couple of functions to attend first).

Regarding the sample and hold on the HOG - I do wish that the Pitchfactor had something similar, but the one on the HOG didn't function well enough for me to use live, so even though I thought it was a cool idea, I never ended up using it. The dry out though, THAT I miss VERY much.

What was the problem? It took me a bit of time to get the freeze and volume just so as it took a good clean note at the time of application. It also helped having an expression with a minimum setting adjustment. The freeze and gliss suffers a little from continuing to add overtones as it holds. Either way I like it under most conditions that I've tried to use it. Just curious what you didn't like.