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Porsche
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Frankly, Porsche has made a name for itself by trying to contravent he laws of physics, then spending 60-odd years trying to rectify the mistake of engine placement by offering 2,343,540 variations on one idea. When they branched out, however you get gems like the 914, 928, 944 and 935. But when they try to expand on what is just plain wrong (the 911) you get Caymans, Cayennes and Panameras.
Answer to OP: get a Jag.
Answer to OP: get a Jag.
I'm far from a Porche-o-phile, but the Cayman is just a coupe version of the Boxster, itself a mid-engine vehicle (as opposed to the 911's rear-engine layout). To that end, I'm not sure how an SUV or a 4 door sports car with a completely different engine layout than the 911 are expanding on the 911.
As for the Jag, I'd wager anything the OP can afford (sub $6K range) is going to be one in desparate need of a mechanic.
Mike
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...JAG&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=1010 '90s Jags will never break down, thanks to Ford build quality. Don't forget, this was from the era of the Focus, hailed as one of the most brilliant cars of its time.
But back to Porsche, when they levae the 911 completley (like the 914) as opposed ot trying to base others off it (tell em the Cayenne doesn't look like a bloated 911) they come up with some decent stuff. But that said, you're either a Porsche guy, a Ferrari guy or an Aston guy, and I'm firmly in the green corner, thereby rendering my opinion 100% skewed agianst Stuttgart (and Maranello for that matter...)
I have a different opinion of Ford build quality from the 1990's. Your mileage obviously varies.
Styling is something else entirely. The main point outlines in your prior post was the engine layout. As for the "either" comment, I'm a car guy and there are models from virtually every manufacturer that I find visually appealing.
Mike
There's a difference between Ford Europe and US built Fords though. Not a huge one, but still a difference. And it must be said that the focus came out in '98. I've driven one a lot and it was a pretty sweet car at the time. And three years after it's release it was actually claimed to be the most reliable "new-ish" car in Germany. Still, when it comes to reliability, I wouldn't call them indestructible. At least around here they did have some rust problems due to the amounts of salt used during the winter.
And to OP, I'd avoid that porsche unless it was thoroughly inspected and you have plenty of cash for repairs.
And to OP, I'd avoid that porsche unless it was thoroughly inspected and you have plenty of cash for repairs.
It's not that every Porsche is hideous to me (914, 550, 917, 944) but that the 911, which it seems all of their recent models have been styled on, is not a looker in my eyes.
But that said, my mind has been skewed against Porsche ever since I first laid eyes upon an E-Type...
Also the era of the Contour and it's sister car the Mercury Mistake. Possibly two of the worst piles of crap ever built.
When I took my drivers test, they highly recommended you drive an automatic for the test, even if you normally drive a manual. The test for manuals is much harder. They will try to trick you into shifting on a turn, a big no-no since you cannot take your hand off the wheel in a turn.
The thing you need to remember here is European Ford and US Ford are nothing like each other. The current European Ford range is one of the most complete, good looking and above all, quality ranges on the market. Especially considering the fantastic value the cars are (£25,000 for a 300hp hot hatch - get in!).
US Ford, ehhhh, not so good...
Apples to oranges. Comparing the S version of the Boxster would be fair if you put it up against the M version of the Z4. Also, the '10 Z4 has a 335 hp twin turbo, good luck running with that
kinda perplexing considering Ford is an American marque, but I've heard the above quoted time and again. That said, the new Fiesta looks incredible. Invest in a kevlar batsuit if you want a Porche for your first car.
NOT AS A FIRST CAR!!!! Especially for a teenager. I owned a 944 for a few years when I was in my early 40s. Great car, lots of fun to drive. Got a speeding ticket the first day I drove it to work. Other cars were passing me but the cop wanted the Porsche! Maintenance is high as hell. and I had access to a decent shop that gave me deals on repairs. Got rid of it and got a used Ferrarri 408GTB (Magnum PI car) Now that was a car to drive!!!! I lived in Virginia Beach VA then and it was great to cruise the Oceanfront strip, then take it out on some of the rural roads and open it up. Not many cops at all out there. My biggest worry was a deer jumping out on the road. I love sports cars but now my health is not so good and my vision is going so I very rarely drive anything anymore. Gave my Nissan Maxima to my 18 year old son when he graduated. Now I just ride like Miss Daisy!
I have owned this since Oct 2007 had collector plates put on it that same year It is very fun to drive. I store it in the winter.
NICE!!!! I have always loved the 928, just never could find one in the right condition at the right price.
A guy that works for me once in a while has a 914-6. He made a lot of the chassis bracing and roll cage in my shop when he was building it. It's a rocket but with no air, race seats and full cage it's not much fun in the florida heat. Not much on the road will touch it.
