Portable meth labs

[XtreO]

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The girl on the top left was nice looking till.....Oi Vey

OMG crystal meth turns you ginger?!

 

[bassteban]

I've been told tweakers hallucinate due to lack of sleep(as opposed to the dope itself). Regardless, it is pure, concentrated evil. To actually know what it does & then whip up a batch for the neighborhood kids- well, I don't have a ton of sympathy for that guy.

 

[jady]

I've been told tweakers hallucinate due to lack of sleep(as opposed to the dope itself). Regardless, it is pure, concentrated evil. To actually know what it does & then whip up a batch for the neighborhood kids- well, I don't have a ton of sympathy for that guy.

+1 and +1

I did meth for most of the 90's.

A horrible drug brewed up in the ass of the devil himself.

The problem nowadays is that the recipe for meth has changed significantly from the original methods. As they crack down on meth they will outlaw certain chemicals and other items required for production resulting in cooks having to come up with new recipes/methods. These new methods are producing a much lower quality and much less pure version of the drug.

When I first started using meth it was great!!! I could stay up for 2-3 days to study and take finals (I aced them all) and then sleep for a day or two and have no problem. This went on for years until in the mid 90's law enforcement started to regulate all the industrial chemicals used for production. This is when the cold pills came into play. Pseudoephedrine was not used at all before that. The difference between the two recipes was pretty major as far as impurities, effects and the toll on your body.

Pure pharmaceutical meth is a different thing all together. While it is hard on your body it is no where near the pure filth and poison that is out today. People have used meth since the 50's but only in the last 15-20 years has it destroyed people so quickly and completely due to the crappy methods of production as in OPs post.

Just remember,

If its green its clean,
If it's white that ain't right.

 

[MakiSupaStar]

I thought this only occurred on Breaking Bad. Meth sucks. I could be here all day telling you stories about the lives it's ruined in my school's neighborhood.

 

[Pilgrim]

Isn't it wonderful that our government thinks weed is a bigger priority than this?

A cogent thought indeed. The feds need to get their priorities straight.

There is a Darwinistic element about meth producers blowing themselves up. I cannot summon any sympathy.

 

[coreyfyfe]

A cogent thought indeed. The feds need to get their priorities straight.

There is a Darwinistic element about meth producers blowing themselves up. I cannot summon any sympathy.

I've been pleased with the current shifts in DEA focus (ie away from medicinal pot users and back towards hard drugs), at least that's been the case as far as the stories I've seen carried int he news.

Some people don't think beyond themselves. Actually most people don't. But whenever I think of meth producers, I think of the case a few years ago in boston. There was a chemistry grad student, either Tufts or MIT, can't recall for sure, that blew up her apartment producing meth. From that I can remember, she wasn't a user, she was just producing to finance her education/lifestyle. Pretty sad.

 

[bassteban]

I do not have a lot of sympathy for someone only making it to make money, for even the noblest purpose. SOMEONE is still going to buy it, use it & all that implies.

 

[coreyfyfe]

I do not have a lot of sympathy for someone only making it to make money, for even the noblest purpose. SOMEONE is still going to buy it, use it & all that implies.

No sympathy here either, just crazy to think of someone going down that road. Honestly, how do you rationalize that?

 

[bassteban]

No sympathy here either, just crazy to think of someone going down that road. Honestly, how do you rationalize that?

The love of money is indeed the root of all evil.

Edit: IMO

 

[MatticusMania]

Hard to believe that this poison was first p popularized by the military in WW Jr. to keep soldiers and airman awake.

the government was also very interested in lsd,and there is evidence that it was tested on unwitting patients in montreal.....

Hard to believe? Not at all.

Pretty much ALL the really bad drugs were introduced to society via the government in one way or another, as remedies to common ailments.

Heroine was once used as Aspirin.
Coke was found in Coca Cola.
Extacy was a cure for depression.

You can read the history of all this stuff.

 

[MakiSupaStar]

Hard to believe? Not at all.

Pretty much ALL the really bad drugs were introduced to society via the government in one way or another, as remedies to common ailments.

Heroine was once used as Aspirin.
Coke was found in Coca Cola.
Extacy was a cure for depression.

You can read the history of all this stuff.

Since when is Coca Cola the government.

 

[MatticusMania]

No sympathy here either, just crazy to think of someone going down that road. Honestly, how do you rationalize that?

Getting cancer and not having the fat stacks to afford treatment. Along with wanting to be able to provide for your family when your terminal illness turns for the worst. That, paired with a working knowledge of chemistry, and easy access to the tools needed to produce it. Oh, and knowing a tweaker.

Since when is Coca Cola the government.

A few years after they let Big Tobacco in.

It wasnt directly introduced by the government, but you can't say they didnt most likely have their hand in the cookie jar.

The prototype Coca-Cola recipe was formulated at the Eagle Drug and Chemical Company, a drugstore in Columbus, Georgia by John Pemberton, originally as a coca wine called Pemberton's French Wine Coca. He may have been inspired by the formidable success of Vin Mariani, a European cocawine.

In 1886, when Atlanta and Fulton County passed prohibition legislation, Pemberton responded by developing Coca-Cola, essentially a non-alcoholic version of French Wine Coca. The first sales were at Jacob's Pharmacy in Atlanta, Georgia, on May 8, 1886. It was initially sold as a patent medicine for five cents a glass at soda fountains, which were popular in the United States at the time due to the belief that carbonated water was good for the health. Pemberton claimed Coca-Cola cured many diseases, including morphine addiction, dyspepsia, neurasthenia, headache, and impotence. Pemberton ran the first advertisement for the beverage on May 29 of the same year in the Atlanta Journal.

By 1888, three versions of Coca-Cola — sold by three separate businesses — were on the market. Asa Griggs Candler acquired a stake in Pemberton's company in 1887 and incorporated it as the Coca Cola Company in 1888. The same year, while suffering from an ongoing addiction to morphine, Pemberton sold the rights a second time to four more businessmen: J.C. Mayfield, A.O. Murphey, C.O. Mullahy and E.H. Bloodworth. Meanwhile, Pemberton's alcoholic son Charley Pemberton began selling his own version of the product.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca_cola

 

[coreyfyfe]

Getting cancer and not having the fat stacks to afford treatment. Along with wanting to be able to provide for your family when your terminal illness turns for the worst. That, paired with a working knowledge of chemistry, and easy access to the tools needed to produce it. Oh, and knowing a tweaker.

I'd still have a hard time rationalizing f-ing a bunch of other people's lives just to fix my own. But I guess that's why I haven't raided the med-chem storage room. Yet....

 

[MatticusMania]

I'd still have a hard time rationalizing f-ing a bunch of other people's lives just to fix my own. But I guess that's why I haven't raided the med-chem storage room. Yet....

The rationale there is that the user is going to get the product either way, if youre not making it, someone else is. By doing so, you can at least guarantee that the end user is receiving the cleanest form, free from impurities.

Im not really justifying anything here, just stating the Walter White's rationalization. He's the next Pablo Escobar, man.

 

[burk48237]

Isn't it wonderful that our government thinks weed is a bigger priority than this? Meth is just a terrible drug no doubt about it. Just look what it does to you!

I'm not sure I agree. I know quite a few DEA agents (use to work in police supply) and in the Midwest they are much more in tune to meth labs. I'd say that's close to 60% of their enforcement. I suspect the reason you hear about weed enforcement more is that there is more of it.

 

[coreyfyfe]

The rationale there is that the user is going to get the product either way, if youre not making it, someone else is. By doing so, you can at least guarantee that the end user is receiving the cleanest form, free from impurities.

Im not really justifying anything here, just stating the Walter White's rationalization. He's the next Pablo Escobar, man.

The issue with that rationalization is that you're increasing the dealer-pool, thus exponentially increasing the number of people that will take/distribute the drug. It's not a zero sum game. Just because you're making something pure, probably for a premium price considering quality reagents, doesn't mean someone else isn't going to produce cheap stuff and continue to sell with a lower profit margin. But, it's a tv show, I doubt they're going to address that.

 

[MatticusMania]

The issue with that rationalization is that you're increasing the dealer-pool, thus exponentially increasing the number of people that will take/distribute the drug.

Incorrect, youre increasing the supply, not the dealer pool. Not everyone who makes it, sells it. A lot of distributors have multiple cooks they work with

It's not a zero sum game. Just because you're making something pure, probably for a premium price considering quality reagents, doesn't mean someone else isn't going to produce cheap stuff and continue to sell with a lower profit margin. But, it's a tv show, I doubt they're going to address that.

Actually, the show does address this fact, if rather lightly. Its a good show, despite the gritty subjject matter, I'd recommend 'Breaking Bad' to any fans of well put together TV shows.

 

[coreyfyfe]

Incorrect, youre increasing the supply, not the dealer pool. Not everyone who makes it, sells it. A lot of distributors have multiple cooks they work with

By that token we can probably also assume that a lot of cooks work with multiple dealers. Thus, having an additional point of manufacture would allow greater overall inventory (and by that token wider distribution), albeit lower market share for the individual producers/sellers.

 

[scorpionldr]

for those who need their drugs on the fly...

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Not that these are the brightest people, but stuff like this tends to deter me from home-style chemistry:

One little mistake, such as unscrewing the bottle cap too fast, can result in a huge blast, and police in Alabama, Oklahoma and other states have linked dozens of flash fires this year – some of them fatal – to meth manufacturing.

"Every meth recipe is dangerous, but in this one, if you don't shake it just right, you can build up too much pressure, and the container can pop," Woodward said.

When fire broke out in older labs, "it was usually on a stove in a back room or garage and people would just run, but when these things pop, you see more extreme burns because they are holding it. There are more fires and more burns because of the close proximity, whether it's on a couch or driving down the road."

Because SHUCKS, that darn "Breaking Bad" show made everybody think they can make a decent living cooking now!