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:) Proof that ABGs are useless:)

How do people remember all the notes from classical music?! I do good at church to remember the verse, chord, bridge on 4-5 songs every week.

I have a book about learning piano, “Fundamentals of Piano Practice.” The author’s contention is that memorizing the music first is important, so that you can then focus on breaking the piece down into problems and solving them. His approach is to memorize first, then work on playing the piece next.

I am a mediocre bassist and not a teacher at all, so I can’t say much beyond this: I tried his method of memorizing and focused problem solving while working on playing JSB’s Invention #4 and it was very effective for me. I advanced to being able to play the treble and bass lines independently very quickly. He has a lot of tips about that that are, IMO, independent of instrument.

He also has things to say about learning to sight-read that have helped me as well. I learned to play JSB’s Prelude in G on an ABG by throwing myself at it for a year, and when I picked up this book I found he listed all of the problems I had run into with memorization and playing from the sheet music right away.
 
Geddy Lee doesn't use his nails anymore. He did that in the 70's to get a pick like tone using his fingers. He wanted a Chris Squire type tone. When he first got his Ric he was disapointed that it didn't sound like Squire's right away.
Every time my bass teacher has a Solar Federation gig or short tour he always bitches about having to let his nails go.:)
Solar Federation — RUSH Tribute Band
 
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ABG tend get lost once there’s an acoustic guitar or 2 and vocals especially with laminated tops.

When I bought my cheapo ABG, the salesperson said much the same thing, “Why bother with an ABG, you’ll have to amplify it anyways, and when you do, there’ll be a host of problems to solve with feedback, &c. Just buy a real bass guitar.”

I bought in anyways, because it suited my use case: Playing Bach solo. But the salesperson was not wrong, my next purchase was a Krappy stick, and then I upgraded to NS/Stick. Now the ABG is a specialized instrument, but short of getting a cello or double bass, nothing else I own can be carried to the beach or played sitting under a tree without faffing about with cords, cables, headphones, &c.
 
When I bought my cheapo ABG, the salesperson said much the same thing, “Why bother with an ABG, you’ll have to amplify it anyways, and when you do, there’ll be a host of problems to solve with feedback, &c. Just buy a real bass guitar.”

I bought in anyways, because it suited my use case: Playing Bach solo. But the salesperson was not wrong, my next purchase was a Krappy stick, and then I upgraded to NS/Stick. Now the ABG is a specialized instrument, but short of getting a cello or double bass, nothing else I own can be carried to the beach or played sitting under a tree without faffing about with cords, cables, headphones, &c.
Actually the sales person IS wrong. An ABG plugged in still has its own sound.
I can attest to this as I own at least 12 ABGs (out of 102 basses) ranging from 34”, 32”, 30”, fretted, fretless, 4 string and 5 string.
 
Actually the sales person IS wrong. An ABG plugged in still has its own sound.

I don’t think they said it wouldn’t have its own unique sound, they were just making assumptions about what would be a good versus bad trade-off that didn’t apply to me personally. FWIW, I did plug it in and try it, but that didn’t interest me with that instrument, and I ended up removing the electronics.

I’ll eventually end up with a good-quality ABG, and when I do, I’m sure I’ll leave its electronics in place.