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Protect your Speakers & Amps with this Simple Fix

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Robert Barrett, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. Robert Barrett

    Robert Barrett

    Mar 28, 2016
    I may like to post some bass items for sale in your classified section (if you have one)
    I had a speaker shorting out and I also thought it was the amp cutting out. Both major expenses. Turned out it was just a bad jack in the back of the speaker (from bumping the cord into walls or just from being a cheap-ass 1/4" jack).

    Anyways to prevent the potential problem of destroying the jack in the future (by bumping up against walls with the cabinet) I hard-wired my 1/4" speaker cord directly to the speaker, sealing the cord & hole (that had the jack) with silicone, and leaving just enough speaker cord (about 12") to connect to the amp sitting on top of the cabinet.

    I would suggest this cheap but very critical fix to anyone who gigs regularly or who just wants to protect their amp & speakers.

    Rockin Rob
  2. Probably easier just converting to speakon
  3. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    May I suggest that this is an absolutely horrible idea that will void the warranty of any manufacturer that I am aware of.

    A much better and safer solution is to use a cable with a right angle 1/4" connector if you plan to be careless with your cabinet and jam it up against the wall. Alternatively, choose a speaker that uses a Speakon connector which is much more robust.
  4. And if I wanna daisy-chain another cab?
    I'll leave mine. But, thanx anyway
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  5. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2008
    Your solution will work in the short term, but eventually the cable will break from being bent back and forth. Ampeg with the B-15 and SVT, had a speaker cable coming out of the amp's chassis. It is common to see the rubber jacket broken and eventually the cable's wires. They eventually went with a jack because of these issues.

    In addition, the dangling attached cable is a pain to deal with. It makes the cabinet harder to load and transport.

    I recommend that you replace the jack and be careful. Or install a speakon and be careful. :laugh:
  6. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    Or, just be more careful in the first place.
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  7. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Tell it like it is, Bro.
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  8. Maybe don't move your gear with the cables plugged in?
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  9. Speakons go bad too.

    I have had to fix them on Ampeg cabs before. I just replace entire plug module as I'm not skilled enough to start desodering and replacing individual connections.

    Point is, they can all wear out.

    I look at connections like tires and brakes on cars, often used and regularly replaced if you ride them hard.
  10. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    I think we're done here good day all.
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  11. Fat Freddy

    Fat Freddy Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2016
    Albany NY
    And a good day to you sir....:)
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  12. BassmanPaul

    BassmanPaul Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    Toronto Ontario Canada
    G’night all, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................................... :)
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  13. ^^^why they make 90 degree 1/4" jacks. They are not just for bling anymore :D
    Always good to see Fat Freddy's cat. Always give me a boost. FF's cat takes me back to when I was young, foolish and always getting in trouble. Not so young now :(
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  14. Fat Freddy

    Fat Freddy Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2016
    Albany NY
    Me neither.....The cat's still doing fine though :thumbsup::)
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  15. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    OP's first post, perhaps he wasn't familiar with the efforts made to provide good long term solutions rather than behind the woodshed quick & dirty short term patch-ups?
  16. aprod


    Mar 11, 2008
    That is one of the dumbest things I have read on here. So you are going to hard wire a cab and head? Won't that take more care to prevent the cable from just pulling right out of either side than being careful with the original cable? This is no fix at all, just another accident waiting to happen.
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  17. john m

    john m Supporting Member

    Jan 15, 2006
    Bad idea--- too easy to rip the cord out. Been moving gear since age 12, just turned 57. How many times have I loaded a band van? :yawn:

    90 degree speaker cord or speakon . And be careful now that you know of a potential problem.
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  18. DavC

    DavC Supporting Member

    May 17, 2005
    Tallmadge , Ohio
    no problems with that .. ? after 40+ yrs of moving gear ...
  19. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Hey, no need to insult the guy. Sheesh! Yeah, it's a bad idea, but just say it's a bad idea. No need to call people names.
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  20. Korladis

    Korladis Supporting Member

    ...not sure if serious...