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Putting Yourself Out There
- Thread starter mellowinman
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Yeah I read that but didn't your wife just try to reach out recently thus sparking the sound guys response? Either way I'd just forget about it and tell your wife not to waste any of her energy giving two sh!ts about it.
you're a lot more mellow than me. If "Rodent" had spoken that way to my wife that way, I would have to find him and remove his 6 remaining teeth. The hard way.
Twice our divorce didn't work out
To the SAME PERSON ?
It's a joke.
Well,
kind of.
It sounds like your wife has an attachment to this venue. You mentioned she used to perform there in the eighties and nineties. I will give you credit though for not beating rodent to an inch of his life doing the right thing doesn't feel right all of the time. But you didn't end up in a jail cell which is good.
Regardless of how great a venue is you can't let people treat you that way.
Give her this example since she's a rocker.
Kiss refused to be inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame, why? Because for decades they scorned kiss but then when they became a multimillion dollar name THEN they wanted to have kiss inducted to make more money.
I may not be a kiss fan but I sure as hell respect them for saying to one of the biggest awards **** you
all you did was put us down until we could make you money we don't need to be in a hall of fame for people to know were bad ass.
Try and motivate to keep gigging get stronger and one day do the same to that venue. You and your band are resilient keep going best wishes.
Regardless of how great a venue is you can't let people treat you that way.
Give her this example since she's a rocker.
Kiss refused to be inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame, why? Because for decades they scorned kiss but then when they became a multimillion dollar name THEN they wanted to have kiss inducted to make more money.
I may not be a kiss fan but I sure as hell respect them for saying to one of the biggest awards **** you
all you did was put us down until we could make you money we don't need to be in a hall of fame for people to know were bad ass.
Try and motivate to keep gigging get stronger and one day do the same to that venue. You and your band are resilient keep going best wishes.
That's the pathetic part. Hanging on to it for that long just shows some people are just a waste of carbon. I hate to think what the rest of his life is like.
No. Failing your wife is being in jail on assault charges.
Enough with this moronic internet tough-guy nonsense. If you hit someone in anger because of THEIR WORDS, you deserve to go to jail. Not assaulting someone because they said something nasty is a mature thing to do. Is it emotionally satisfying? No. But get over it. They're just words. You're not in a school yard, and you're not 8 years old.
As for this situation? Move on from this venue. It seems to have some measure of nostalgia for someone. But why would you want to work somewhere where the soundman is so openly hostile? If your options are limited, then perhaps it's time to talk with the booker and/or owner of the venue to tell them that their soundman makes it an openly hostile work environment. Tell them that you like the venue, that you want to help their business, but you also want to feel welcome there. If that all fails... MOVE ON.
As for the act? Well, how fresh does it feel to you? Personally, I think that a lot of classic rock cover bands have gotten a bit stagnant in terms of their song lists. Things might sound really tight from a performance standpoint. But are there any of those moments that jump out as a surprise for the audience?
I think back to a couple of concert experiences that really blew me away. Both from very established classic rock acts. First, when I saw Pink Floyd live in 1994. They were touring behind The Division Bell. But what did they open with? "Astonomy Domine" from back in the Syd Barrett days! I stood there totally amazed that they would open with this song, and my exact words were "Holy s***!" And then there was the time that I saw Jimmy Page and Robert Plant live. They were on tour following the whole 'Unledded' thing. And what did they open with? It was "The Wanton Song" from Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffitti album. Both of these were completely and totally unexpected, from established acts with treasure troves in terms of back catalogs, and songs that are completely obvious opening songs. They bucked that trend and did something different. And it worked! Give the audience some credit. And try giving them something a little different.
It's just amazing how long a brief memory can be help against you for years. My old singer still hears about stuff that went down when she had a band with her ex almost a decade ago. The agent was looking into booking us at a club she hadn't been to in a while and said the owner asked if she still had that stoner drummer. Who was 4 drummers ago and hadn't been in the band in maybe 4 years at that time.
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Jealousy takes many forms - you were dealing with d*ckwads who can't handle their tiny little role in life. You love what you do, you are good at it. Own it. Screw them.
s0c9
Supporting Member
One of the "large" venues we play has an older house sound guy. who's more than a little set in his ways and can be a first class a**hole at times. It's not that he's bad at his job.. but for the regional bands (like mine) that play there, it's done his way or not at all. So much so, that he got into a fight with one of them.. they quit the venue and assault charges were filed, and it went to court. The sound guy is still there.. that band is not.
We're booked there over Thanksgiving weekend (Wed, Fri, Sat nights) so we'll see if there's been a change in attitude at FOH or not.
Great gig.. venue holds about 1200. It's jammed over Thanksgiving weekend.
We're booked there over Thanksgiving weekend (Wed, Fri, Sat nights) so we'll see if there's been a change in attitude at FOH or not.
Great gig.. venue holds about 1200. It's jammed over Thanksgiving weekend.
I couldn't agree more with this. While I love a lot of music from the "classic rock" (which is a rater nebulous term to begin with) era, many classic rock bands' set lists are just plain beat to death. And they don't have to be. I love Lynyrd Skynyrd, but they've had more hits than Sweet Home Alabama and Gimme Three Steps. I've love to hear a band do Saturday Night Special or Working For MCA. And those songs should be recognizable and danceable enough for the typical bar crowd.
My theory is that people go to the standards because they're easy to learn and don't require much work. Everyone who's played in rock, Top 40, or country bands has Sweet Home in their repertoire, so it's easy to throw a set list together with it. Playing Saturday Night Special is probably going to require learning a new song for most players and maybe even some rehearsal time.
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Our two Skynyrd songs are "I Know a Little," and "Freebird." And "Freebird" is STILL going over with the entire audience packed up near the stage area whistling, cheering and lighting Bic lighters most nights.
We've been honing this setlist for a while, and I guarantee when we have a big audience, we go over.
Our next two shows will be:
Always on the Run
Train Kept a'Rollin'
Rockin' in the Free World
Yer Blues
Rocky Mountain Way
Stealin'
It's a Long Way to the Top (if you wanna rock and roll)
Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo
Bad Girlfriend
Tie Your Mother Down
It's my Life
One Way or Another
Ten Inch Record
Sweet Emotion
Train, Train
Knocking on Heaven's Door
Whipping Post
While my Guitar Gently Weeps
Don't Let me Down
The Chain
Call it Rock and Roll
I Hate my Life
Miss You
Kiss
I Know a Little
Second Chance
Survival of the Sickest
Kicked in the Teeth
Voodoo Child (slight return)
Slow Ride
Money
Comfortably Numb
Dead or Alive
Have a Nice Day
Long Tall Sally
Whole Lotta Love
and ending with Freebird
Not very many of these are all that easy to learn or to play, with all the starts, stops, changes and idiosyncrasies, especially in a four piece.
They will be played with considerable enthusiasm, and I'll come back after next weekend to tell you how they went over, but this is two nights during the Bluffton Street Fair, and this stuff should be gold.
Miss You, Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo, Slow Ride and Have a Nice Day are all new to the set list, and I'm excited to give them a run.
Mellowinman,
Good job holding your temper..... Escalating it would only have brought
trouble and perhaps given you a bad rep to other bar owners...he obviously has issues and is a creep....never a good idea to stoop to that level
I like your set list....quite a variety in there!
Great to see a fellow 50+ still rockin!
Good job holding your temper..... Escalating it would only have brought
trouble and perhaps given you a bad rep to other bar owners...he obviously has issues and is a creep....never a good idea to stoop to that level
I like your set list....quite a variety in there!
Great to see a fellow 50+ still rockin!
Haji
Supporting Member
I know a lot of you have played in bars, but have you worked in 'em? I spent a little over a year as a bouncer. The job was a source of income; I was kinda apathetic about it. Some people think its a cool job. It's a job. The main reason I quit doing it, though, was I got sick of seeing the same people, both customers and staff, night after night doing the same stupid crap night after night with the same ridiculous drama night after night.
It's MUCH better to work at them than in them.
It's MUCH better to work at them than in them.
